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Old 12-29-2010, 01:06 AM
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Replacements that I would love...

Schottenheimer

Gruden

Dungy



Miss Jerry Jones made an astute observation recently. She said "No head coach has ever gone to another team and won a SB." Something to think about.

Who am I kidding? I just want consecutive double digit winning seasons!!!!!
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:10 AM
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Replacements that I would love...

Schottenheimer

Gruden

Dungy



Miss Jerry Jones made an astute observation recently. She said "No head coach has ever gone to another team and won a SB." Something to think about.

Who am I kidding? I just want consecutive double digit winning seasons!!!!!
I heard that. Very interesting and it gives some pause to hiring a big name coach.

But how many coaches have won a superbowl total? Maybe 25. How many went on to coach in other places? About a dozen maybe.

And how many coaches total in the superbowl era? Hundreds? A Thousand? I really have no idea.

But the point is the sample size of superbowl coaches who move on is tiny and you really can't draw any conclusions from it.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:47 AM
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Well, Schottenheimer has never been to a Super Bowl, much less won one. He has John Elway and Tom Brady to thank for that.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:49 AM
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Well, Schottenheimer has never been to a Super Bowl, much less won one. He has John Elway and Tom Brady to thank for that.
Elway and Brady, both white. It must be a conspiracy. Of course, they're both quarterbacks.
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Old 12-29-2010, 02:03 AM
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May I remind you, Chuck, that Smith didn't hire Kubiak. Smith came later, even though they both came from the Broncos. He has no track record for hiring head coaches so it's all speculation at this time. It's just that the overall track record of minority GMs is that they hire fellow minorities as their head coaches/managers. It's not always the case (Ozzie Newsome, for one) but it is a trend - one that I think means we should not dismiss minority HCs in the speculation.

FWIW, if the Vikes are dumb enough not to keep Leslie Frazier, I'd be thrilled to give him a shot here. I think he has potential to be the next Jeff Fisher (if we can't get Fisher).

But if Smith is staying, that will make it harder to reel in the big names circulating in the media because most of them want a lot of control and a sitting GM is not likely to give it.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:36 AM
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May I remind you, Chuck, that Smith didn't hire Kubiak. Smith came later, even though they both came from the Broncos. He has no track record for hiring head coaches so it's all speculation at this time. It's just that the overall track record of minority GMs is that they hire fellow minorities as their head coaches/managers.
Sure, please remind me. You know, I am simply a casual fan with no real recollection of or interest in the team's history, so, please, yes, remind me that Smith came after Kubiak.

That makes your claim that minority GMs hire minority head coaches all the more absurd. Reese? His HC is Coughlin. WHITE. Newsome? His HC is Harbaugh. WHITE.

I mean, seriously. WTF planet are you on? Why do you think that Smith would be more inclined to hire an AA head coach than any other? Your world view is pathetic. Seriously. I actually feel sorry for you knowing that you think that the BLACK folk are out to steal your tax dollars and that the GM of your second favorite football team (third favorite?) is going to hire a BLACK head coach simply because he himself is BLACK.

Really, Bob. I don't mean to be patronizing; I say this to you as a friend. This is 2011, not 1961. Race has faded as an issue. It is still an issue, sure, thanks largely to attitudes such as yours. But please, let that shit go and let's move on to relevant matters. We're witnessing and even participating in the decline of an empire and rather than confront that you want to resurrect George Wallace. It's crazy. It really is.

Kenny Williams? Guillen. Not BLACK, but close enough for you I guess. BROWN. And he speaks SPANISH.

OK. I'll give you that one.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:57 AM
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while i would prefer that mcnair fire everyone and start over, if they get rid of kubiak and keep smith, that will at least show me he really wants to win. i don't know whether smith is any good or not. given kubiak basically hired him i don't know how much power he actually had. if smith does hire the new hc, then i at least hope it is someone he has never worked with, even if it is a coordinator.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:57 PM
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I mean, seriously. WTF planet are you on?
The one where we don't flee the country and only occasionally return to cheer a team with the most porous defense this side of the U.S. Border Patrol.

But I didn't mean to turn this thread into yet another argument on race. We'll see if Smith brings in more than the Rooney Rule token for HC candidates. Right now, it's just too early to draw a conclusion.
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