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How do we have anything close to the 1st pick of the draft? Without it Luck is going elsewhere.
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Schottenheimer for HC
Wade Phillips for DC....and yes, a modified 3-4 with existing personnel. |
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Wade may not want to go back into coaching for awhile. He has to be fairly burned out. But he would be a candidate for DC in my book.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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Its a long shot, but in all honesty, I think Kubiak getting shit canned is a long shot, but keep an eye on the Titan situation. I can see a pissing contest brewing with the VY/Fisher/Adams circus......
I for one sure wouldn't mind seeing Fisher on the sidelines in Houston again. |
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I think Fisher is a good coach, but I've come to think of him as the enemy. Of course it is just for entertainment, so why not.
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I think Fisher ends up the next coach in Dallas. Going from one meddling owner to another. We can still think of him as the enemy.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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The guy has had his job since 1994 and has won 5 playoff games. And his last playoff win was 2003. So that is 6 going on 7 years without a playoff win. That means Wade Phillips and Brad Childress have won more playoff games in the last 7 years then Fisher. I'll pass. |
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Just in case you were wondering....these teams have defenses that I'm really enamored with and looking to poach coaches off their rosters...
Pittsburgh Green Bay New York Jets Baltimore Cleveland Miami San Diego Kansas City These teams consistently hold offenses to less than their average scoring output. That would be an answered prayer. I have the Texans defense only ahead of the Bills, Broncos, and Cardinals. I'm curious if the Broncos are second guessing allowing Mike Nolan to go to Miami.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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Brad Smith is a college QB who averages 28 yards per kick return. Ben Kotwica is from West Point, but I'm not going to let that cloud my judgment. Hopefully he has learned a lot from Special Teams guru Mike Westhoff. Ben Kotwica was promoted to assistant special teams coach after two seasons as a quality control coach on defense and special teams. ◊ Joined the Jets after two seasons as the defensive coordinator at the U.S. Military Academy Preparatory School, in Monmouth, NJ.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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The more I read on this the more it seems that Bud Adams is siding with VY, which could/should mean that Fisher will want out of Tennessee.
If Kubiak is fired also look for Rick Smith to go, if that is the case then we need a real GM. IMO I would look at Floyd Reese, former GM of the Oilers/Titans and current Senior Football Advisor for the Patriots. He was hired to replace Scott Pioli. Floyd was a position coach and scout. He is well respected and he built a Super Bowl Team for the miser Bud Adams. Add the fact that Floyd and Fisher have worked together and their connections to Houston makes this a nice fit. GM Floyd Reese HC Jeff Fisher OC Rick Dennison Leave the rest of the offensive coaches alone DC Chuck Cecil AHC/LBs Mike Singletary Secondary Marcus Robertson Ast Secondary CBs Cris Dishman DL Jason Fisk
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I can only guess that fond Oilers memories have clouded your memory on Fisher. The guy has had his job for 17 years without a superbowl win. In fact only 5 playoff wins that entire time. And none since 2003.
Is 6 playoff appearances in 17 years really what we aspire to? I know it would be an improvement on what we have had, but for me it really is superbowl or bust. If we are going to hire a re-tread coach why not hire one with a superbowl win. Or go with a guy who is fresh. To me it is either Cowher, Dungy (if we have a miracle up our sleeves), Harbaugh if we want to roll the dice and try for a guy who may be great, or the top defensive assistant who can compliment our offense the way Dungy/Gruden came into teams who already had one side of the ball figured out. But if you told me the Texans weren't going to win a superbowl in the next 17 years but they would make the playoffs 5 times, I wouldn't take it. |
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In defense of Fisher, he has had to do all of that with Bud Adams as the owner. I suspect he could do a lot more with a guy like Bob McNair making it possible.
In addition, Fisher is definitely a defensive coach with defensive coach's mentality. And what exactly do the Texans lack? 1) a defense and 2) toughness. Fisher would insist we had both. Plus we have talent on our front seven but we still aren't able to stop teams. I've never seen a Fisher team who wouldn't sell out to stop an opponent. I'd move him to the front of my candidate list if he became available. |
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Like Bob said, Fisher would bring many of the qualities that the current staff lacks. He's gotten a lot out of the talent he's had (and the organization he's worked for) and he generally hires quality assistants -- Gregg Williams, Jim Schwartz, Norm Chow, Mike Muchak, Jim Washburn (not a big name but consistently makes productive DLs out of the likes of Jason Babin), etc. I haven't looked closely back at Reese's track record but I remember it being pretty solid with more hits than misses. The fact that he's been working for the Patriots boosts his stock in my eyes. |
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Your version seems to have much better sources. So then bring in Reese and let him hire the HC, like most great organizations do. They let the GM be the boss. If you are not going to go with a guy like Reese, then throw money at Bill Parcells.
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If Bud backs VY over Fisher, and he's given that indication so far, I bet that he just doesn't can Fisher, especially if he thinks Houston is interested. He's going to try to milk compensation out of the situation, like the Raiders got for Gruden and the Jets got for Belichick and later Herman Edwards. |
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Belichick is clearly calling the shots for the Patriots but I'd consider having worked in that system to be a big plus for Reese as a GM candidate. Former Patriot front office guys like Scott Pioli and Thomas Dimitroff have had more success than former Patriot assistant coaches. |
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