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Old 11-07-2010, 04:05 PM
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Q: If we do look for a new head coach, why limit ourselves to assistants? Why not go whale hunting and finally land a big name like Cowher or Gruden? If coaching is the problem, not talent, wouldn't that be ideal for a top gun who knows how to turn talent into champions?
I'm sorry if I was not clear in the 1st post, this is only part one of the guys to look at. The ex HCs and the OC are to follow in separate posts.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:09 PM
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I don't want an OC. As the Broncos are finding out, you don't replace an offensive HC with another one when defense is your problem.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:54 PM
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I don't want an OC. As the Broncos are finding out, you don't replace an offensive HC with another one when defense is your problem.
Uh....didn't we already try the "defensive coach" for the first 5 years? Granted, I will give up the first 3 years, but we digressed the last two under Capers, hence us hiring an "offensive coach".
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:29 AM
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Despite some dumb habits, offense isn't the problem. We can run. We can pass. We score points. What sucks to high heaven is the defense and bringing in another team's offensive coordinator won't solve any of the problems on defense.

Maybe the offense will backslide under a defensive head coach but it will take a few years before it deteriorates to the level of the defense. Hopefully, by that time, the defensive head coach is smart enough to find an offensive coordinator who can retool the offense.

Besides, this team has lacked a mean streak from the very beginning. I want a head coach who is willing to coach some toughness into these guys and, usually, that's a defensive coach.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:36 AM
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OK let’s look at the out of work Head Coaches. I am going to list most of them from 2002 to the present. Why look at the bottom guys? Well remember at one time Bellichick was a bust in Cleveland then he was a genius when given a second chance.

Dick LeBeau former Bengals HC and current DC of Pittsburgh
Marty Mornhinweg former Lions HC (had a bone headed coin toss decision) current OC of Philly WCO
Bill Callahan Raider Super Bowl Head Coach and current Assistant HC of the Jets/OLine WCO
Jim Fassel former Giants HC and current Head Coach of the Las Vegas Locomotives also former OC of the Ravens
Dave McGinnis former Cardinals HC and current LB coach for the Titans
Gregg Williams former Bills HC (fired due to poor offense) current Saints DC
Jim Bates former Interim Miami HC, out of the league (64 years old)
Butch Davis former Browns HC, and current HC of North Carolina
Dennis Erickson former Seahawk and 49ers HC, current Arizona State HC
Steve Mariucci former 49ers and Lions HC, currently out of the league for 5 years
Mike Mularkey former Bills HC and current Falcons OC
Mike Tice former Vikings HC and current OLine coach for the Bears.
Bill Cowher former Super Bowl winning HC of the Steelers, out of football
Brian Billick former Super Bowl winning HC of the Ravens, out of football
Cam Cameron former Dolphins HC and current Ravens OC
Romeo Crennel former Browns HC and current DC of the Chiefs
Tony Dungy Super Bowl Winning HC of the Colts, out of football
Herman Edwards former Jets and Chiefs HC, out of football
Jon Gruden Super Bowl Winning HC of the Bucs, in the TV booth
Jim Haslett former Saints HC and current DC in Washington
Scout Linehan former HC of the Rams and current Lions OC
Rob Marinelli former HC of the Lions and Current DC of the Bears
Mike Nolan former HC of the 49ers, current Dolphins DC.
Jim Zorn former Redskins HC and current QB coach for the Ravens

Tear into these guys, the list is long.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:12 PM
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As of today: Wade Phillips former HC of the Dallas Cowboys, a 3-4 specialist.
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