Official Texans @ Saints Game Thread, 8/21/2010

Arky · #1 08-21-2010, 10:59 PM

2 minutes left.

J Johnson for no gain. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Pass to JJ in the endzone goes inc. 4th and 2 coming up.

Texans to go for it.

Pass goes inc. Flag on the play. Illegal offense on the Texans. Saints ball.

Arky · #2 08-21-2010, 11:02 PM

Ball at the 5.

Saints are kneeling it out.

Final Score:

Saints 38, Texans 20

Back to the drawing board...

HPF Bob · #3 08-21-2010, 11:10 PM

Not a good effort but...this just in...Saints are a good team. I think they won something last year.

Arky · #4 08-21-2010, 11:27 PM

Some of the stats that stick out to me:

Time of possession: Saints 40:00, Texans 20:00

Saints rushing: 198 yards.

Saints 3rd down conversions: 8/16 (Texans just 1/8)

Saints 4th down conversions: 3/3 (Texans 0/1) (Coach Payton, did you really need those 1st downs?)

Brees was just 5/10 for 36 yards - no TD's, no INT's. Backup Chase Daniel ate us up going 15/21 for 182 yards and 3 TDs, 1 Int.

Saints looked in mid-season form, Texans looked like bumblers but it's all good - they need to find this stuff out in the pre-season and get it together. It will be interesting to see if they can rebound against Dallas. I feel bad for Holliday but they may have discovered some new return men tonight....

Nconroe · #5 08-22-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Saints 4th down conversions: 3/3 (Texans 0/1) (Coach Payton, did you really need those 1st downs?)

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I didn't really like that either, isn't that cheating in a preseason game?

No excuses for looking that bad though, but Texans seemed to be trying to evaluate different combinations of players and plays while Saints seemed to be interested in showing they could win tonight. Looked like Saints actually game planned for a practice game. And Chase Daniels looked really good tonight.

Actually, Orlovsky looked much better tonight than previously, maybe he'll be ok as backup now.

Troy Nolan looked good again towards end of game.

barrett · #6 08-22-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

I didn't really like that either, isn't that cheating in a preseason game?

No excuses for looking that bad though, but Texans seemed to be trying to evaluate different combinations of players and plays while Saints seemed to be interested in showing they could win tonight. Looked like Saints actually game planned for a practice game. And Chase Daniels looked really good tonight.

Actually, Orlovsky looked much better tonight than previously, maybe he'll be ok as backup now.

Troy Nolan looked good again towards end of game.

I still feel the same way I did last week. This offense cannot be run without a QB who can move. The QB doesn't need to be fast or able to run, but our offense is filled with bootlegs, outside zone plays, screen plays where the QB needs to retreat, and a generally moving pocket.

And Dan Orlovsky had at least 5 physical stumbles tonight where he tripped over his own feet (and two where he mishandled it in his hands while ball handling). When he is out there our Play action is useless and the whole offense loses all sense of misdirection. It becomes either drop straight back and throw, or run it inside.

Who in the pro scouting department decided that a good throwing arm qualified this guy to direct this offense?

Big Texas · #7 08-22-2010, 08:58 AM

When you get your ass kicked like that...it was because you were legitimately confused...Sean Payton won this game. He went to practice all week, sized up our team, and exposed our weaknesses.

1. Just about every run play was some kind of misdirection play. Yes our defense was swarming to ball...however, the ball was going the other way before they realized...GOOD COACHING
1a. There were too many plays where two or three of their Olineman were in the second level putting hats on our LBs and Safties.

One play particularly, ASmith was 10 yards in their backfield before he realized the play was a draw right up the middle and the running back was at least 5-8 yards passed the LOS.

2. Every time we brought CBarwin in the game they exposed his overeagerness...hence the long dumpoff/screen for a touchdown.

3. Wade Smith was blown up by Sedrick Ellis on a number of run of handoffs. As a matter of fact their "D" wasnt falling for that cutback either. They just went straight over our Oline.

I really hope for our sake that Kubiak was experimenting out there rather than really showing his hand. But who really wants to take that kind of ass kicking? Even if it is preseason...

Big Texas · #8 08-22-2010, 08:59 AM

BTW...We finally got on the front of NFL.COM...However not in the way we would've liked...

Brees diving over our pile for a TD.

chuck · #9 08-22-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Saints 4th down conversions: 3/3 (Texans 0/1) (Coach Payton, did you really need those 1st downs?)

You should be talking to Coach Bush rather than Coach Payton.

Arky · #10 08-22-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck

You should be talking to Coach Bush rather than Coach Payton.

Yep, definitely the defense should have stepped up. I'm just questioning practicing throat stomping in a pre-season game... Shades of NCAA run-'em-up coaches...

HPF Bob · #11 08-22-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Yep, definitely the defense should have stepped up. I'm just questioning practicing throat stomping in a pre-season game... Shades of NCAA run-'em-up coaches...

One thing coaches like to do in the pre-season is get things on film that they want the rest of the league to see and fret about. If they had three different fourth down plays, opposing coaches are now going to have to prep for all three plays whereas if they only saw one, the coach might assume that one was their go-to play on fourth down. Personally, I'd show them three plays I *won't* use during the season but now have to make my opponents game plan against.

There are two types of trick plays - the ones you work on for the rest of the league to see and the ones you want to spring as a total surprise (like the "Music City Miracle"). Personally, I think the Texans need a total new set of trick plays because they haven't run a good one since, well, ever.

WMH · #12 08-21-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Not a good effort but...this just in...Saints are a good team. I think they won something last year.

Yepper, and I REALLY feel for AZ this year without Warner and Boldin......OUCH.
- For you FFLer's - Buyer beware of Fitzgerald this year.

sinnister · #13 08-21-2010, 11:36 PM

Just curious, but how did K.Jackson look?

painekiller · #14 08-21-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sinnister

Just curious, but how did K.Jackson look?

Because the run defense sucked so bad, Brees did nto pass much and they did not throw at Jackson much. But when they did he look solid.

He also flashed on some of the run plays. Overall a solid showing from him.

As for the rest of the game, I am disgusted as heck, but again I remind myself that it is preseason and no one appeared to get hurt. I would rather have a flat game now, then during the season.

This game did not matter and some of the guy appeared to be playing not to get hurt, and we did play pretty vanilla defense.

I do think our team philosophy of small and quick was exposed tonight on both sides of the ball.

chuck · #15 08-21-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sinnister

Just curious, but how did K.Jackson look?

Like the rest of the defense he missed a lot of tackles. I watched the game over the internet so I'll have to wait until I can see it on the NFL Network to know for sure but it didn't seem like he had a lot of passes to defend. The Saints got it done on the ground with Brees in for the most part.