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Old 05-12-2010, 12:51 AM
barrett barrett is offline
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called it.

and you guys pissed all over me.
Where did you call it? I seem to remember a thread where you made a thinly veiled reference to steroids and then when people got upset you whined about how you never actually said steroids.

So did you call it or not?

Either way I'll congratulate you on predicting Brian Cushing's downfall. You are obviously very proud of yourself.
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:05 AM
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Now Cushing's coverup seems as bad as the crime. Why can't they all be like Andy Pettitte? When he got caught, he admitted it, asked for forgiveness and resumed his career.
Players underestimate how much fans want to forgive them. They want to put them on pedestals. A player enhances his appeal by looking vulnerable and seeking forgiveness.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...e/7001055.html
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I know most of you guys can't stand Justice, but that just means you're playing right into his hands because he's of course a provocateur.
But I totally agree with his take of what Cushings strategy should have been when he was busted dirty, but I'm guessing the strategy he did use was
based on advise he got from the same guy who told him the dope he was on would be undetectible to league testing.
I've now moved to the place where I'm more interested in the Texans mind set on taking Cushing with their first round pick last year ? Were they just plain incompetant in their efforts to discover he was a doper, or were they more of the same mindset of Cushing himself in the sense that they thought
he could go undetected in testing ? It would be surprising to me if McNair was willing to take him knowing he was a doper and wanting him bad enough even if his use was discovered and revealed ?
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:50 PM
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NEW YORK -- Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing has won a revote and will keep The Associated Press NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year award he won in January.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5183620
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:58 PM
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NEW YORK -- Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing has won a revote and will keep The Associated Press NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year award he won in January.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5183620
What a colossal waste of time........

But hey, we sure have been in the "news" alot
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Old 05-12-2010, 03:56 PM
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Seen over in the chron.com comments:

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I guess the Texans can use this in their media guide: "Brian Cushing, two time defensive rookie of the year".
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:53 PM
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So the league thought the Hcg masked the use of steroids, is that it? Because if Hcg is naturally occurring, then how can they suspend on just that? No matter what, I still think Cushing is the best thing that has ever happened to our defense. We need him o0n the field.
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:36 PM
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Apparently the league thinks it is a serious offense! Raping a 20 year girl only brings a 4-8 game suspension (probably 6).
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:21 PM
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So the league thought the Hcg masked the use of steroids, is that it? Because if Hcg is naturally occurring, then how can they suspend on just that? No matter what, I still think Cushing is the best thing that has ever happened to our defense. We need him o0n the field.
Well I am no doctor but from reading so many stories on this, an elevated presence can indicate a substance being used to kick start a testosterone cycle. HcG was detected in very low levels but apparently any detection at all is considered not normal, the reasons range from a health problem or part of a steroid taking regimen or from smoking pot, not to mention the other uncomfortable possibility.

This whole thing was a pointless rush to judgment, the re-vote I mean, Cushing will serve that suspension without pay for this positive test. But why the insistence on doing this so soon? Anyway, there are no winners here: the media, Cushing, the league et al.

What I want to know is how does the test work? Is it one urine test examined once? Is there any accounting for a false positive? Is there any redundancy? That and the year wait for a decision on an appeal is too long. I hope they will come up with a better system, both in terms of accuracy (maybe adopt the blood testing model used by the Olympics but even that is not perfect), and the speed of the appeals and punishment procedures. They can do this in the next CBA but will they? I can't imagine either side willing to budge on this, they will be too busy arguing over money.
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