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Old 04-23-2010, 12:29 PM
painekiller painekiller is offline
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The general thinks the pick will be Gerhart or Tate. He hopes Houston falls to our 3rd, but if not he thinks it will be a DT or FS in the 3rd round.

The RBs I see as available in the 2nd that we might be interested in are Toby Gerhart, Ben Tate, Jonathan Dwyer, and Montario Hardesty. Lance Z says that Hardesty has a medical issue and could fall to the 5th. So he maybe off the board.

The internet gurus, who are proving once again to know nothing, have Gerhart and Tate as late 3rds and early 4th rounders. I have thought for weeks that there will be a run on the RBs in the 2nd.

IMO the OL is the issue not the RB, but in the opinion of most experts, few of these guys (OL) are NFL ready, and a RB can run just about anytime, so the Texans will take a player that can contribute today over a guy with a higher and longer upside. Again.

BTW I am not upset with Jackson, I have the 3 CBs after Harden all about the same, some like Coke some like Pepsi and some like Dr Pepper. I am upset with the draft management, it seems we do not have the team that can get moves made. Look at Parchell's in Miami, look at the new team in Denver, look at the Cowboy's, they all move to gather picks and grab their guy.

Let the draft fall to you and you end taking a guy that no one else would have taken for 5 to 8 picks later.
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Old 04-23-2010, 12:56 PM
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Yes, and those trades were going on all around our position so you can't say we didn't have the opportunity.

From Bush's interview they seem to be prepared to take the highest rated player available for a need position. When their RB got taken (possibly Matthews) they reverted to defense.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:21 PM
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Not having two starting CBs was the biggest mistake before the draft. Everyone knew what the Texans wanted making them a target to be jumped in front of if they traded down and there was a CB run. Teams act out of desperation when they put themselves in a position of desperation.

I guess I had pretty much assumed the Texans would take best available rb or cb with their pick for a while. The fact that they got their pick of cbs was nice versus my expectations.
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Old 04-23-2010, 02:54 PM
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The general thinks the pick will be Gerhart or Tate. He hopes Houston falls to our 3rd, but if not he thinks it will be a DT or FS in the 3rd round.

The RBs I see as available in the 2nd that we might be interested in are Toby Gerhart, Ben Tate, Jonathan Dwyer, and Montario Hardesty. Lance Z says that Hardesty has a medical issue and could fall to the 5th. So he maybe off the board.

The internet gurus, who are proving once again to know nothing, have Gerhart and Tate as late 3rds and early 4th rounders. I have thought for weeks that there will be a run on the RBs in the 2nd.

IMO the OL is the issue not the RB, but in the opinion of most experts, few of these guys (OL) are NFL ready, and a RB can run just about anytime, so the Texans will take a player that can contribute today over a guy with a higher and longer upside. Again.

BTW I am not upset with Jackson, I have the 3 CBs after Harden all about the same, some like Coke some like Pepsi and some like Dr Pepper. I am upset with the draft management, it seems we do not have the team that can get moves made. Look at Parchell's in Miami, look at the new team in Denver, look at the Cowboy's, they all move to gather picks and grab their guy.

Let the draft fall to you and you end taking a guy that no one else would have taken for 5 to 8 picks later.
Still sour grapes, huh PK? Judging by last year the Texans draft room isn't doing too bad.
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Old 04-23-2010, 03:21 PM
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I'm not really big on any of the RBs in the second so I'd prefer we get our OG or DL in the second.
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:36 PM
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If we had been able to trade down, then getting a CB, RB, AND a Lineman would have been able to be accomplished. Anyway, going forward from here....My Guys....

1 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
2 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
4 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
5 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
6 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
7 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
8 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
9 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
10 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
11 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
12 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
13 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
14 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
15 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
16 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
17 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:05 PM
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If we don't go RB in the 2nd, I think it'll be FS.

Although if Price/Houston are there, I'd probably have to go with one of them. Shoring up our interior D-line in the mid rounds would be ideal.
Last year we drafted a falling Connor Barwin in the 2nd, even though we had just signed A. Smith.

My guys for the second in no particular order-

Morgan Burnett FS
Nate Allen FS
Roger Saffold OT
Ben Tate RB
Toby Gerhart RB
Lamar Houston DT
Brian Price DT
Golden Tate WR
Taylor Mays FS
Brandon Lafell WR
Linval Joseph DT
John Jerry OG
Major Wright FS
(Maybe a small reach for Jonathan Dwyer)
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:11 PM
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Saffold would have been a good LG in my opinion. I hope the RAMS don't expect to play him at RT.
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:25 PM
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Price to Tampa to team up with McCoy. Not bad.
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:28 PM
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I think the Texans will do what the Jags did last night and overdraft their guy if necessary in the second-round tonight if he's on their Board.
They are on record as saying they waited too long last year to grab a back and they've all but taken out a billboard this year and advertised that corner & RB are their 2 top prioroities. OK then, one down and one to go.
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:47 PM
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.My Guys....

1 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
2 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
4 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
5 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
6 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
7 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
8 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
9 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
10 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
11 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
12 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
13 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
So far, so good. Only Saffold has come off my draft board in the 2nd round. The Dolphins select Koa Misi....yet, Sergio Kindle is still on the board. Curioser and curiouser.
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:50 PM
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I still hope for Mays or Gerhart.
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:52 PM
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Troup comes off my draft board. No idea that he'd come off before Linval Joseph or Cam Thomas. Lamarr Houston and Geno Atkins still on the board too.
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Old 04-23-2010, 06:14 PM
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Troup comes off my draft board. No idea that he'd come off before Linval Joseph or Cam Thomas. Lamarr Houston and Geno Atkins still on the board too.
Hmmm....now, I'm wondering if I should just get Geno Atkins and hope that Gerhart or Tate are there in the 3rd round.....
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