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Old 07-22-2008, 09:48 AM
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I hope Manfull is asking about signing bonuses. She's like 0-for-5 right now.
WTG, Meggie! The print edition of the Chronicle this morning had signing bonuses for two of the picks. Okam signed for $178,000, and Molden received a signing bonus "of more than $750,000."

Ehhhh, so she had info on maybe one and a half of them. Baby steps, people.

I'm not too concerned, as most of you can probably tell already. I seem to get this info one way or another. For now, I'll work on updating the cap page this morning using guesstimates.

Molden, as a 79th pick, ought to have a signing bonus in the neighborhood of Jacoby Jones', who was the 73rd pick a year ago. Jones received $777,111.

Okam, as the 151st pick, has a bonus close to Brandon Harrison, #144 last year. Harrison received $182,125.

So, then reasonable estimates might be:
$753,000 for Antwaun Molden. Last year's 79th overall pick, Mike Walker, signed for $732,000.
$667,000 for Steve Slaton. Last year's 89th overall pick, Aaron Rouse, signed for $649,500.
$448,400 for Xavier Adibi. Ryne Robinson signed for $438,305 last year.
$178,000 for Okam is 2.3% higher than the $174,000 Jeff Rowe received last year.
$141,175 for Dominique Barber. Last year's comparable was $138,000.
$56,265 for Alex Brink. Zac Diles received $56,915 last year as the 218th pick.

As I mentioned on the site's front page, Duane Brown will likely sign a 5-year deal with guarantees in the neighborhood of $6.3 million. The YOY increase for first round rookies is greater than the others, so nailing the estimate is a bit more challenging. Anthony Spencer signed for $6mm in guarantees last year, so Brown will sign for somewhere in the range of $6.2mm and $6.3mm, representing around a 3-4% increase.

We'll see how close I get.

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HEHE Keith, I will be your dedicated beat guy if the team will agree to give me free access to all the events as a member of the media for ITB.com :P
The Texans are far more likely to grant media access to a fifth grade newspaper than they are to ItB.com.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:16 AM
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The Texans are far more likely to grant media access to a fifth grade newspaper than they are to ItB.com.

I've got a nephew....if I can get him to start a newspaper and get him credentialed then I would have to chauffeur him around to all the media events.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:51 PM
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I've got a nephew....if I can get him to start a newspaper and get him credentialed then I would have to chauffeur him around to all the media events.

Or we can get 'Gilbert' on staff. Anyway.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:42 PM
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This is something I stole from the TT board. a guy called BornOrange posted all of the signing dates of the Texans picks, since we no longer care about the Capers/Casserly picks, I am posting the Kubiak picks. (I know Casserly's group signed Kubiak's first draft).


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2008 Season
July 25 First Practice Day
?????? (1)Duane Brown
July 21 (3)Antwaun Molden
July 21 (3)Steve Slaton
July 21 (5)Frank Okam
July 16 (4)Xavier Adibi
June 26 (7)Alex Brink
June 19 (6)Dominique Barber

2007 Season
July 27 First Practice Day
July 27 (1)Amobi Okoye
July 26 (4)Fred Bennett
July 26 (5)Brandon Frye
July 24 (3)Jacoby Jones
July 23 (5)Brandon Harrison
July 23 (6)Kasey Studdard
July 19 (7)Zac Diles

2006 Season
July 28 First Practice Day
July 23 (3)Charles Spencer
July 23 (3)Eric Winston
July 13 (6)Wali Lundy
July 13 (7)David Anderson
July 12 (4)Owen Daniels
July 07 (2)DeMeco Ryans
April 28 (1)Mario Williams
Notice that mid July is when most of the signings occur, having two signed in June is very unusual. Also the longer the team waits the more the player gets concerned, he wants to be in on time, and he want some cash, it's hard to live without cash.


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Old 07-23-2008, 06:05 PM
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C'mon big Duane, get signed and into camp on time! There, now that I vented I feel much, much better.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:53 PM
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In a way, Brown is in an ideal position. Even though most low first rounders are not in a situation where they are being counted on to be difference makers at the very beginning of the season, the Texans are telling Brown that he is already an important piece of the offense. In addition, his technique is raw and the Texans are desperate for him to get as many reps as possible in camp.

If he is a real competitor, none of that should matter, but if he is more concerned about milking every last dollar out of the Texans instead of starting on day one, then I think he's in a good position to do it.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:32 AM
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well, seeing as how he is late-first round and clearly the texans do need him maybe brown will squeeze out a few more incentives but i really hope his head is in the right place during camp. he needs to focus on nothing else.


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Old 07-24-2008, 09:29 AM
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In a way, Brown is in an ideal position. Even though most low first rounders are not in a situation where they are being counted on to be difference makers at the very beginning of the season, the Texans are telling Brown that he is already an important piece of the offense.
I don't really agree with that. Salaam is sitting there, and at least in the sense of a negotiation that gives the Texans the cards. They have a capable veteran starter who Brown's not going to beat out unless he's there working and learning everyday. Truth be told he might not come out of camp better than Salaam even if he is there on time. The hope is that he's close enough to earn some on the job training.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:52 PM
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As I mentioned on the site's front page, Duane Brown will likely sign a 5-year deal with guarantees in the neighborhood of $6.3 million. The YOY increase for first round rookies is greater than the others, so nailing the estimate is a bit more challenging. Anthony Spencer signed for $6mm in guarantees last year, so Brown will sign for somewhere in the range of $6.2mm and $6.3mm, representing around a 3-4% increase.

We'll see how close I get.
Seems I got pretty close. McClain sez:
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Brown, the first-round pick who is ticketed to start at left tackle, signed a $9.1 million contract that could pay him as much as $11.5 million if he reaches his incentives. It includes $6.2 million in guaranteed money.
http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/2008/07/b...as_texans.html

Someone else told me I was $1000 or so off on Molden, but I haven't confirmed it yet.
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:30 PM
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Good job, as usual, Keith.
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