7 Round Mock

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by painekiller

as of 1/29/10 they have a new 7 rounder
20 Houston Jared Odrick DT 6'5" 306 Penn State
51 Houston Reshad Jones* S 6'2" 212 Georgia
82 Houston Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
116 Houston Dezmon Briscoe* WR 6'3" 200 Kansas
147 Houston Shawn Lauvao OG 6'3" 310 Arizona State
156 Houston (from San Diego) Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU
178 Houston Tyler Sheehan QB 6'4" 227 Bowling Green
212 Houston Jim Cordle OC 6'4" 286 Ohio State

MY cherry pick
20 Mike Iupati OG 6'6" 330 Idaho
51 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State
82 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
116 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
147 Justin Woodall S 6'2" 220 Alabama
156 Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan
178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo
212 Kerry Meier WR 6'3" 216 Kansas

post senior bowl mock

#48 Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri
51 Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida
54 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State
82 Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama
94 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
147 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon
156 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa
178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo
212 Larry Asante S 6'1" 210 Nebraska

[NBT]

Why such a fixation on Weatherspoon? Every year there seems to be a message board darling. This year it seems to be Weatherspoon. There are higher and better needs, I believe, going into this years draft. A RB, a CB, a DT, and a OG should lead the parade, but not that much on LB. You wanta enlighten me, PK?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

Why such a fixation on Weatherspoon? Every year there seems to be a message board darling. This year it seems to be Weatherspoon. There are higher and better needs, I believe, going into this years draft. A RB, a CB, a DT, and a OG should lead the parade, but not that much on LB. You wanta enlighten me, PK?

#48 Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri
51 Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida
54 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State
82 Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama
94 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
147 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon
156 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa
178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo
212 Larry Asante S 6'1" 210 Nebraska

Got two RBs, got a shut down CB (IMO), got a very good safety prospect, I got two of the better OG in this draft, all of this without a 1st round pick on the "needs" you where calling for.

As for DT, I like Dan Williams, but he was gone. The mock draft I used by draftsite.com, was almost a worse case situation for the Texans. The guys I really want are gone before 20. After the Senior Bowl I am not picking Iupati at 20, and the 1st round trade downs do not net me much, so a went for the larger drop. That is where Weatherspoon was a BPA after the drop.

I would rather have chosen between Perrish Cox, Donovan Warren, Terrence Cody, Morgan Burnett to name a few. But they where gone in this mock after the trade down.

BTW I like Weatherspoon leadership, high motor, side line to side line range, can play all three LB positions, and he is a stud in coverage. I have been looking for a group on this team that can be a strength, and Weatherspoon helps the Texans become elite at LB.

BTW the more we mock Weatherspoon, the less of a chance that he is our pick.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by NBT

Why such a fixation on Weatherspoon? Every year there seems to be a message board darling. This year it seems to be Weatherspoon. There are higher and better needs, I believe, going into this years draft. A RB, a CB, a DT, and a OG should lead the parade, but not that much on LB. You wanta enlighten me, PK?

I liked Spoon last year, but he returned for a Senior year. I'm not going to jump off his bandwagon now. We have higher needs? Yes. Is there a better player? I haven't been convinced by any of the guys I've seen. If Haden is still on the board, I'll bite. Eric Berry? Sure. I'm not drafting a Guard in the 1st round unless he can play OT in a pinch. So, if Trent Williams is still around, I'd be willing to go that route. I'm not sure if I draft a RB in the 1st round until the team makes the playoffs. The kid from Fresno in the 2nd sounds good to me. So, overall, I forsee the best player available when we pick will be Spoon. I'd rather have 3 great LB's on the field and simply remove a NT on passing downs.

[idymoe]

Originally Posted by painekiller

post senior bowl mock

#48 Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri
51 Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida
54 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State
82 Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama
94 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
147 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon
156 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa
178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo
212 Larry Asante S 6'1" 210 Nebraska

Tricksy with the trade-down.


I'll do this early with an alternate I wouldn't complain about.

1 Brandon Graham olb/de - Mike Iupati og
2 Kile Wilson cb - Markice Pouncey c
3 John Asamoan og - Anthony Dixon rb
4 Ben Tate rb - Kurt Coleman s
5 A.J.Edds olb - LeGarrette Blount rb
6. Cam Thomas DT - Robert Johnson s
7. Chris Cook cb - Larry Asante s

A lot of people thought Conner Barwin would be playing olb on a 3-4 defense. If Graham could beat him out for the de spot, I think he could make a great wlb. If not, Graham plays wlb. If you take Graham, take Blount in the fifth. If you take Iupati, take Edds in the fifth.

I know A.J. Edds is barely there at the Texans 6th pick, but I take him in the fifth to be sure.

[painekiller]

Check out some of the videos, especially Starks

post senior bowl mock

#48 Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri
51 Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida
54 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State
82 Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama
94 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
147 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon
156 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa
178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo
212 Larry Asante S 6'1" 210 Nebraska

[NBT]

Ok, I can understand that Weatherspoon is one of the best players in the draft. My reason for asking was that, if we went for him in the first, would there really be a good sound player at the other positions of need in the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th rounds? I didn't, don't, think so, thus my question. I would like this draft to be the feat de acompli to put us up there with the elite teams in the league, and one that would set the tone for a run up to the Super Bowl.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

Ok, I can understand that Weatherspoon is one of the best players in the draft. My reason for asking was that, if we went for him in the first, would there really be a good sound player at the other positions of need in the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th rounds? I didn't, don't, think so, thus my question. I would like this draft to be the feat de acompli to put us up there with the elite teams in the league, and one that would set the tone for a run up to the Super Bowl.

Other than DT, I would say yes that we can find a RB, CB, or OG in the later rounds.

NBT did you not notice that I traded down and took Weatherspoon in the 2nd round? I did not take a 1st rounder, instead I opted for Weatherspoon and Wilson in the 2nd round to replace a 1st rounder. (Allen was drafted using the Texans 2nd round pick).

[NBT]

Nope, sorry, I did not notice that. Excusa meo!

[Roy P]

OK, I've gone off my draftboard and tried to stay true to it as I went through the 7 rounder that drafttek has up now. This is my attempt without any trades.

1. RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
2. CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
3. DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 California
4. DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 North Carolina
5. CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
6. FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 Virginia
7. OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 303 Notre Dame
8. OG Thomas Austin 6'3" 315 Clemson

I hate drafting a RB in the 1st round, but Spoon was off the board.
Kyle Wilson is my "replacement" for Dunta Robinson, because I am not paying him $10M for his effort and production. Alualu makes Zgonina expendable so he can retire already as well as give Okoye some competition. Cam Thomas is way undervalued in this mock draft, and I was happy to get him to replace Okam. Brian Jackson and Chris Cook are fighting it out for FS and the Dimeback. Two big OL to round out the draft.

[Roy P]

Apparently, I must have Cam Thomas way higher than the "consensus" mock draft. This is what I got...even after drafting Sean Weatherspoon.

1. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
2. CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
3. OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
4. DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 North Carolina
5. RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 LSU
6. CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
7. S Larry Asante 6'0" 210 Nebraska
8. DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky

[Roy P]

I have come to the conclusion that this draft isn't one of my favorites in terms of matching needs with players. I can't say that I have any great Offensive Linemen that I feel comfortable can come in and play at a high level to establish our running game. Trying to find a "mauler" that can also pass protect and be agile enough to fit into a ZBS is harder than it looks. The guys who are potential LT prospects are the OL that I'm considering. However, Shawn Andrews of the Eagles is the last guy I can think of who was a LT in college that was drafted to play RG. I'd like Bryan Bulaga but I'm not sure he's available when we pick nor am I sure that I want to spend a 1st round pick to go that direction. His college teammate, Kyle Calloway is intriguing in terms of his talent and when he's likely to be drafted. I'm interested in how he tests at the Combine because, I think he might not be "athletic" enough for this coaching staff. Probably the best fit of talent and when he'll be selected is Jon Asamoah from Illinois, again I am not sure if I want to spend a 2nd rounder, but I suppose I'll have to bite the bullet. That's IF he's still around at pick #50, since I've seen him off the board at #37.

The Secondary is no different really. We can forget about being able to take Eric Berry in the first round, the word is out that he's pretty good. Joe Haden is also most likely gone before we make a pick. There is going to be some sentiment to select Longhorn Earl Thomas to be our ballhawk. The question is can we afford to take a player who isn't very good at tackling and is small for the position that could lead to injury? If all we want is a player to sit back in Zone and make Interceptions, might we take a CB like Syd'Quan Thompson in the 2nd round and tell him to help out when he can against the run without getting himself killed? Ah, there's that 2nd round pick again that I was going to spend on Asamoah. Wait a minute, the CB's in this draft are not very good in all phases of the game either. I have my eye on Kyle Wilson, but he's probably a 2nd round pick too just like Donovan Warren. If I were able to luck out and have Brandon Ghee available at pick #83 in the 3rd round, I'd be pretty happy.

We'd like a RB too in this draft, and the best chance to get one that will be a difference maker is in the 3rd round. That's assuming Toby Gerhart or Ben Tate are still on the board. Perhaps we get another Tennessee RB Montario Hardesty. I know he absolutely killed the University of Kentucky when I watched that game.

I personally would like a LB to take the place of Diles. We have Freeman on the roster and it will be interesting to see if Adibi continues to draw a check. I have a long history of projecting LBs higher than when they are actually drafted. A perfect example is Brandon Siler of the Florida Gators, now Chargers. I'm hopeful that short Bulldog LB Rennie Curran falls into this category. It would great if he "fell" to the 5th round.

The 6th and 7th round is going to go towards players who may "grow" into their position. I wouldn't mind drafting a big, slow CB who could project into the FS position. Brian Jackson of Oklahoma or Chris Cook are who I'm thinking of specifically. Then there is the idea of Caldwell being a guard, in which case we could draft a OC late like Eric Olsen - Notre Dame, John Estes - Hawaii, or Jeff Byers - USC.

So, in my perfect scenario we trade out of the first round with KC Chiefs and get picks: #36, #68, #138, #163. Then the draft would look like this...

#36 - OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
#50 - CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.42 Michigan
#68 - FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
#83 - RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford
#115 - LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.56 Georgia
#138 - DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 4.96 Purdue
#146 - OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 5.24 North Carolina St
#163 - QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
#177 - DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 4.95 Kentucky
#187 - OC Jeff Byers 6'3" 299 5.22 USC
#210 - Given to KC in trade