Baby Shan Leaving Texans / Search for a New OC

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Keith

There would presumably be better job security by moving to the Redskins, given his father would just be entering a multi-year contract whereas Kubiak will be entering the last year of his in Houston (barring an extension, of course). Job security does not equal job sanity though.

You know who owns the Redskins, right?

[Keith]

Originally Posted by chuck

You know who owns the Redskins, right?

Of course. But as it stands now, Kubiak has just one year left. Snyder may decide to axe Shanahan after one year, but I doubt it given the amount he'll be investing in his next head coach. And one would think that Mike wouldn't fire his son after one season, right?

But that's why I also referenced job sanity... working long days and nights with your father (seems over-romanticized to me once the "teehee, this is fun!" wears off) not to mention working for a crazy boss like Snyder might be detrimental to one's mental well-being.

[Keith]

chron.com has the short list of candidates to replace baby Shan:

The four candidates to replace Texans offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan are Tennessee offensive line coach Mike Munchak, Denver offensive line coach Rick Dennison, Atlanta quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave and Kansas City offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. ...

Kubiak worked with Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey in Denver. He's never worked with Munchak, who has spent his entire 28-year playing and coaching career the Oilers/Titans.

Munchak has never been an offensive coordinator. He's coached the offensive line since he retired after the 1993 season.

Musgrave, a former NFL quarterback, coached Matt Schaub at the University of Virginia and with the Falcons.
Kubiak tried to bring Dennison with him from the Broncos in 2006, but Mike Shanahan wouldn't let him out of his contract.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6798435.html

[Roy P]

Atlanta quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave

Musgrave, a former NFL quarterback, coached Matt Schaub at the University of Virginia and with the Falcons.


--Put me down for this guy. The offense was able to produce some yardage, so I would like some "continuity" and familiarity. I realize there were times when the offense could not score in the red zone or convert short yardage situations, but I blame most of that on the interior OL and the RB.

[bckey]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Atlanta quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave

Musgrave, a former NFL quarterback, coached Matt Schaub at the University of Virginia and with the Falcons.


--Put me down for this guy. The offense was able to produce some yardage, so I would like some "continuity" and familiarity. I realize there were times when the offense could not score in the red zone or convert short yardage situations, but I blame most of that on the interior OL and the RB.

I'm with Roy on this one.

[Mike]

I like Musgrave as well. Although Chan Gailey was a very good OC, just a terrible HC. He is like the offensive version of Capers.

[popanot]

All of those candidates have qualities I like and all would probably be fine in this system, although, Munchak is the least known commodity from an OC standpoint and probably the highest risk. It would be pretty cool having him and Bruce Matthews on staff, but I don't see him getting the job.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by WMH

The Chronic is reporting that our request to interview him was denied....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6800366.html

I didn't think they could block it if it was a promotion.....Typical Bud Adams, screw you Houston shit. Not that I was a huge fan of this thought, but that is classless to keep a man down that wants to be a HC someday.

There used to be a rule that each team could designate two supervisory assistant coach positions (usually the coordinators) and non-supervisor assistants could interview for those jobs without having to get permission from their employers. That was changed so now an assistant under contract can’t interview with another team for a job other than head coach without permission. At least when the Cardinals blocked Bush from coming in 2006 they bumped him up to assistant head coach.

Originally Posted by Keith

But that's why I also referenced job sanity... working long days and nights with your father (seems over-romanticized to me once the "teehee, this is fun!" wears off) not to mention working for a crazy boss like Snyder might be detrimental to one's mental well-being.

I think Shanito also runs the risk of getting the same stigma that Kubiak had for a while in Denver -- that Big Shan is the one really running the offense.

Did it strike anyone else as a little odd that the Texans were openly looking for Lil Shan's replacement over 24 hours before Shan Sr.'s hiring was announced?

My guess is that Weis would go to a team with a defensive-minded head coach who will toss him the keys to the offense and let him do his thing. I think the fact that Kubiak is involved in the offense, though, gives the Texans more flexibility to get bring someone in who hasn’t been a coordinator or play-caller before.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Warren

My guess is that Weis would go to a team with a defensive-minded head coach who will toss him the keys to the offense and let him do his thing.

...or he could go to a team with a head coach with an offensive background like Todd Haley.

Speaking of fired college coaches, another name that came to mind is Steve Kragthorpe, most recently head coach at Louisville but who also had a decent stint as QB coach for the Bills. He and Kubiak coached at A&M within a few years of each other, so while they haven't worked together I'm sure they've worked with some of the same people.