IntheBullseye.com  

Go Back   IntheBullseye.com > Hot Reads ...In the Bullseye > The Texans
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-17-2008, 08:07 PM
ArlingtonTexan ArlingtonTexan is offline
Undrafted Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 23
Default

In terms of running a similiar offense yes, bt making sense for the organization, not so much.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-17-2008, 08:57 PM
Nconroe Nconroe is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lake Conroe
Posts: 2,897
Default

Absolutely a bad idea for any team. Farve has been pretty bad last several years, ok, last year better than previous several, just luck. He needs to retire. He was good in what was it, 1993, not 2008.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-18-2008, 01:36 AM
TheMatrix31 TheMatrix31 is offline
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,042
Default

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!

I don't want that attention whore on my team. Go retire and STAY retired, Brett!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-18-2008, 07:04 AM
KJ3 KJ3 is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: h-town baby!
Posts: 563
Default

c'mon....this is espn taking the deadest part of the sports calendar and finding something to cling to. espn is like a manipulative girlfriend, sucking the life out of anything it can. hey espn, it isn't breaking news after 4 or 5 hours....or days....it's only breaking news once...
__________________
Cowher Power 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-18-2008, 09:05 AM
ArlingtonTexan ArlingtonTexan is offline
Undrafted Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 23
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
c'mon....this is espn taking the deadest part of the sports calendar and finding something to cling to. espn is like a manipulative girlfriend, sucking the life out of anything it can. hey espn, it isn't breaking news after 4 or 5 hours....or days....it's only breaking news once...
While what you say might be generally true, this particular story came from NFLnetwork.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-21-2008, 07:25 AM
KJ3 KJ3 is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: h-town baby!
Posts: 563
Default

ouchie for nfln. although it is football related and their whole programming is football related and this has probably been their only story in 2 months...

besides, it's not like espn is looking around for more stories haha...they've settled squarely in the asscrack between the packers and brett favre.

these national networks need to keep somebody, who views football through a pair of goggles known as common sense, in every city so they can just call them up right before they say something stupid to find out if what they are saying is silly or not.
__________________
Cowher Power 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-22-2008, 05:51 PM
mussop mussop is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: livingston
Posts: 360
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nconroe View Post
Absolutely a bad idea for any team. Farve has been pretty bad last several years, ok, last year better than previous several, just luck. He needs to retire. He was good in what was it, 1993, not 2008.
JUST LUCK?

Favre 2007 stats
RAT 95.7 YARDS 4155 TD 28 INT 15
Takes Green Bay to the NFC Champoinship game while surrounded by arguably less talent than any other playoff team and comes up just 3 pionts shy of beating eventual World Champion NY Giants and going to the SUPERBOWL! JUST LUCK?

Matt Schaub 2007 STATS
RAT 87.2 YDS 2,241 TD 9 INT 9

Sage Rosenfels 2007 STATS
RAT 84.8 YDS 1,684 TD 15 INT 12

Favre hasnt missed a game since 1993. Thats 16 games a year for 15 years. Some of you need to get a grip on youre perspective of this team. You are all feeling a little to warm and fuzzy about the Texans. I have high hopes to but cmon man, if we have a chance to get one of the premier QB's of the last 15 years we should jump all over it. Yeh were building a winner here and going about the right way but the QB position is the most important position there is.

You really think Shaub would mind being tudored by a HOF QB for the next couple of years? Do you honestly believe Favres presence would harm this teams growth? One of the beggest question marks about this team is whether or not Schaub is ready/capable of being the leader of this team. He (Shaub) could learn from one of if not the best leaders the NFL has ever had.

We dont know for sure if Shaub can last a whole year. Sage is a FA after next year. Do you honestly think he'll be back? I know it wont happen but if you could get Favre for a 3rd or 4th round pick or even for Sage, DO IT NOW!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-22-2008, 08:06 PM
Joe Joe Joe Joe is offline
Veteran Depth
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 170
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mussop View Post
JUST LUCK?

Favre 2007 stats
RAT 95.7 YARDS 4155 TD 28 INT 15
Following two bad years. The picks used to get him will be better than him in 3 seasons.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-22-2008, 09:03 PM
ArlingtonTexan ArlingtonTexan is offline
Undrafted Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 23
Default

If i truly thought the texans were a Qb away from being a superbowl team it would be worth it. Outside of that, the texans need to find out if Schaub is a legitimate starting NFL QB, and they can't do that with Schaub spending time as understudying for another year or two.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-22-2008, 09:10 PM
kravix kravix is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mussop View Post
Some of you need to get a grip on youre perspective of this team. You are all feeling a little to warm and fuzzy about the Texans. I have high hopes to but cmon man, if we have a chance to get one of the premier QB's of the last 15 years we should jump all over it. Yeh were building a winner here and going about the right way but the QB position is the most important position there is.
I dont see Favre giving the Texans any better chance to goto the playoffs this year than either of our QB's. He may have been a great QB, but this team needs stability in the positions we have good players and concentration and growth in the areas that are weak. Not shakup for the sake of bringing in a legend.

If I was a fan of teams like the Packers, Carolina, Minnesota, Chicago and a few other that a QB like Farve could put us over the cusp then maybe, but still you get 1-2 years from him. It makes no sense.

It is also a matter of our FO's mentality, which is not spend big and win now. Kubiak is a coach that wants to build a team to win for years and is willing to take some time to make it happen. He isnt instant about instant gratification.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-22-2008, 09:32 PM
nunusguy nunusguy is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,399
Default

McGinn writes that a source said Favre had continued to use a Packers-issued cell phone and that when the team checked the phone records it found “repeated calls to coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.”
The possibility of Favre having used a phone issued by the Packers had been speculated on last week after the Associated Press reported that Green Bay informed the NFL it felt “an investigation of the phone records would show more than ‘normal contact’ between the Vikings and Favre, even before he formally asked for his release to play for another team.”
http://ww3.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=1719
*************************************
I dunno, is Brett not sneeky enough or not smart enough ? Better use your own phone next time you try to work out a deal on the side there Brettster.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:24 AM
KJ3 KJ3 is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: h-town baby!
Posts: 563
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mussop View Post
Some of you need to get a grip on youre perspective of this team.
haha yea....SOME of us need a grip hahaha...
Quote:
You are all feeling a little to warm and fuzzy about the Texans. I have high hopes to but cmon man, if we have a chance to get one of the premier QB's of the last 15 years we should jump all over it. Yeh were building a winner here and going about the right way but the QB position is the most important position there is.
that's exactly the problem homie, we would be getting brett favre at 38 not brett favre "of the last 15 years". and averaged out, his last handful of years have been not-so great.
Quote:
You really think Shaub would mind being tudored by a HOF QB for the next couple of years?
yes, he was promised a starting job.
Quote:
Do you honestly believe Favres presence would harm this teams growth?
without question yes. you think the players opinion of favre's little kicking and screaming ordeal of the last few weeks has gone over well with anyone?
Quote:
One of the beggest question marks about this team is whether or not Schaub is ready/capable of being the leader of this team. He (Shaub) could learn from one of if not the best leaders the NFL has ever had.
it's a question mark because we haven't seen enough. as in: we need to see more schaub. besides, favre seemed like an awesome mentor to aaron rodgers...
Quote:
We dont know for sure if Shaub can last a whole year.
what makes you think a 38 year old with 27 seasons of football on his body can? just because he did it last year and 26 seasons before that? that won't mean anything to anybody on the field.
Quote:
Sage is a FA after next year. Do you honestly think he'll be back? I know it wont happen but if you could get Favre for a 3rd or 4th round pick or even for Sage, DO IT NOW!
favre for sage, eh? that's cool. i'm fine with favre the backup. except that he gets paid 12 mil or something ridiculous.
__________________
Cowher Power 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:59 PM
Keith Keith is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,761
Default

According to the Wisconsin State Journal, the Texans are one of eight team the Packers thinks are possible trading partners in a deal for Favre.

Quote:
GREEN BAY — As the Green Bay Packers wait to see whether Brett Favre will indeed file his reinstatement papers with the NFL, the club is working its way through a list of teams it sees as potential trading partners for the sort-of-retired quarterback.

According to a league source, the teams on that list include the New York Jets, the Baltimore Ravens, the Miami Dolphins and the Houston Texans in the AFC and the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Atlanta Falcons and Washington Redskins in the NFC.
http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/297417
__________________
Support ...IntheBullseye.com and follow us on Twitter
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-24-2008, 12:30 AM
mussop mussop is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: livingston
Posts: 360
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith View Post
According to the Wisconsin State Journal, the Texans are one of eight team the Packers thinks are possible trading partners in a deal for Favre.



http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/297417


I cant wait to see Favre in steel blue! (in the wheel chair guy on familly guys voice) LETS DO THIS....YEAH!!!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-24-2008, 12:35 AM
Keith Keith is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,761
Default

Well, don't pin your hopes on it. I don't have any linkage on this, so take it fwiw... unsubstantiated interweb chatter... but word is when the Packers called the Texans about a trade, the Texans said no.

Probably not a surprising answer, either.
__________________
Support ...IntheBullseye.com and follow us on Twitter
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-24-2008, 08:48 AM
cadams cadams is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 461
Default

Man, I just don't see this happening. I don't think this is the direction that Smith and Kubiak really want to go, especially with Sage still at the backup. Also, I am not sure I would like this move either. I can't imagine GB would give him away, and the Texans need thier draft picks.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-24-2008, 02:50 PM
KJ3 KJ3 is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: h-town baby!
Posts: 563
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cadams View Post
Man, I just don't see this happening. I don't think this is the direction that Smith and Kubiak really want to go, especially with Sage still at the backup. Also, I am not sure I would like this move either. I can't imagine GB would give him away, and the Texans need thier draft picks.
nailed it 100%. not a chink in that armor.
__________________
Cowher Power 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-24-2008, 12:24 AM
mussop mussop is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: livingston
Posts: 360
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
haha yea....SOME of us need a grip hahaha...


Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
that's exactly the problem homie, we would be getting brett favre at 38 not brett favre "of the last 15 years". and averaged out, his last handful of years have been not-so great.
Look at the talent level he has played with the last 3 years. Then consider what he accomplished last year, "homie".


Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
yes, he was promised a starting job.
Thats the problem. He should have to earn a starting job not be promissed it. If we got Favre and Shaub outplayed him fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
without question yes.
in what way?

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
you think the players opinion of favre's little kicking and screaming ordeal of the last few weeks has gone over well with anyone?
Show me one single report that another player thinks less of Favre for wanting to come back. Only people like you and the Media are of the opinion that Favre is kicking and screaming. Its really been blown out of porportion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
it's a question mark because we haven't seen enough. as in: we need to see more schaub. besides, favre seemed like an awesome mentor to aaron rodgers...
He would have to stay on the field for us to see more of him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
what makes you think a 38 year old with 27 seasons of football on his body can? just because he did it last year and 26 seasons before that? that won't mean anything to anybody on the field.


Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
favre for sage, eh? that's cool. i'm fine with favre the backup. except that he gets paid 12 mil or something ridiculous.
If he is better than Schaub why should he be the backup?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-24-2008, 07:29 AM
KJ3 KJ3 is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: h-town baby!
Posts: 563
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mussop View Post
Look at the talent level he has played with the last 3 years. Then consider what he accomplished last year, "homie".
consider what he accomplished last year with a great field of talent around him? so his team has to be good or he doesn't show up? consider it considered.
Quote:
Thats the problem. He should have to earn a starting job not be promissed it. If we got Favre and Shaub outplayed him fine.
maybe so...but that doesn't change the fact that it's still schaub's job. if he didn't lose it to sage, favre shouldn't even be a concern.
Quote:
in what way?

Show me one single report that another player thinks less of Favre for wanting to come back. Only people like you and the Media are of the opinion that Favre is kicking and screaming. Its really been blown out of porportion.
i have to have an article for that? for cereal? people generally dislike temper tantrums, so i have to assume nfl players are people and that favre IS throwing himself a pity-party...so put one and one together. it makes eleven. my guess is the packers lockerroom isn't a field of daisies right now.
Quote:
He would have to stay on the field for us to see more of him.
so you agree? more playing time for schaub. because he was damn good while on the field, devoid of any sort of weapon-type player no less.




why am i even keeping this up? favre to the texans: bum-dum pshhhhhh!! favre using a packer cell phone to call the vikings: bum-dum pshhhhhH!! brett favre is a 4 year old girl crossing her arms and stomping the ground. you know what bad little children need? a good shutting the f up.
__________________
Cowher Power 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-25-2008, 01:14 AM
mussop mussop is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: livingston
Posts: 360
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
consider what he accomplished last year with a great field of talent around him? so his team has to be good or he doesn't show up? consider it considered.
Great field of talent? Whatever!

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
maybe so...but that doesn't change the fact that it's still schaub's job. if he didn't lose it to sage, favre shouldn't even be a concern.
Just because he didnt loose it to a career backup he shouldnt have to earn his spot?

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
i have to have an article for that? for cereal? people generally dislike temper tantrums, so i have to assume nfl players are people and that favre IS throwing himself a pity-party...so put one and one together. it makes eleven. my guess is the packers lockerroom isn't a field of daisies right now.
Yes show me an article or even one single quote from a current player that as a problem with what is going on with Favre. While youre at it please explain how hes throwing a temper tantrum. Ridiculous!!!!So he retired and now hes changed his mind. Big effen deal like its never happened before with any other player. You are basically making the tantrum part up because you think it makes youre argument look better. Sad!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post
so you agree? more playing time for schaub. because he was damn good while on the field, devoid of any sort of weapon-type player no less.
Really, Favre was damn better with about the same amount of help.


Quote:
Originally Posted by KJ3 View Post


why am i even keeping this up? favre to the texans: bum-dum pshhhhhh!! favre using a packer cell phone to call the vikings: bum-dum pshhhhhH!! brett favre is a 4 year old girl crossing her arms and stomping the ground. you know what bad little children need? a good shutting the f up.
Favre didnt have a cell phone that belonged to the Packers. More made up crap by the media to doll up their story. Kinda like youre version where he is throwing a "tantrum". bum-dum pshhhhhH!!

Last edited by mussop; 07-25-2008 at 02:00 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.