Official Texans vs. Titans Game Thread, 11/23/2009

[Mike]

I am still sick this morning. The only silver lining is that we have Thanksgiving and an extra day off. That will make the week go by faster. I will be miserable for the next few days. The only thing that is making me smile is the idiot Titan fan that would not leave his seat in section 350 last night when asked by the ushers, then got arrested by HPD. Moron.

I am not sure where to start. I am not a "Fire XYZ" guy, but now I really have some doubts.

All I can do is muster up my inner Jim Mora and say these two quotable quotes. "Playoffs, are you kidding me..playoffs." And of course..."That sucked."

All my emotional capital is spent. However, I will be drinking the kool-aid in the offseason. I can't help myself. It is a sickness.

[painekiller]

Let's go get Marty Schottenheimer. He knows how to get to the playoffs. And this team does not.

I agree with popanot, Casey and Slaton cause more matchup issues than Leach and Brown. You should design your game plan for match problems. No LB can cover Slaton, and when Casey swings out wide they defense has to account for him, unlike Leach.

I know Mario is hurt so I am not going to bust his chops, but is a hurt Mario, a one armed Mario, better than healthy someone else? The coaches should know.

When you have a roster of AJ, Andre Davis, Slaton, Walters, and can spread the defense out with this speed package, why do you stay with the package that has Brown, and David Anderson in them. Anderson is only faster then Matt Schaub, and that is it.

[Nconroe]

I really wanted to win yesterday. So very disappointed. But, I'm not sure what to say, I think some people are overreacting to losing on a last second field goal. A game we for sure could have won. Many things could have gone better. I think we can win with what we got, players and coaches, and I think we are much better than previous years even though perhaps W-L record doesn't show it yet. And while it is getting more difficult, we do still have a shot at the playoffs and a winning record overall, in these last six remaining games.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

I think some people are overreacting to losing on a last second field goal. A game we for sure could have won. Many things could have gone better.

Unfortunately, this is the image McNair has allowed this franchise to become. Their motto should be "Just be competitive, baby!". IMO, last minute or not, a loss is a loss regardless if it's by 3, 7, 10 or whatever. It continues to be a case where the players can't make the plays when they need to and/or the coaches are not able to develop a scheme or put the right players in the right position in order to make a play. Both are at fault, but I don't think expecting more and asking for someone to be held accountable for 7 years of average to downright awful play is overreacting. Kubiak has shown me that, yes, he can improve a team from awful to average, but I see nothing that indicates he has the wherewithal to take it to the next level. Like they say, you can't fire the players. I expect and want more than average.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

Unfortunately, this is the image McNair has allowed this franchise to become. Their motto should be "Just be competitive, baby!". IMO, last minute or not, a loss is a loss regardless if it's by 3, 7, 10 or whatever. It continues to be a case where the players can't make the plays when they need to and/or the coaches are not able to develop a scheme or put the right players in the right position in order to make a play. Both are at fault, but I don't think expecting more and asking for someone to be held accountable for 7 years of average to downright awful play is overreacting. Kubiak has shown me that, yes, he can improve a team from awful to average, but I see nothing that indicates he has the wherewithal to take it to the next level. Like they say, you can't fire the players. I expect and want more than average.

I think you are missing his point. We have a competitive football team. We are not a dynasty, those are few and far between (and we are too young for that anyway), but we ARE a competitive team. The ball has not bounced, or been kicked, our way so far, but who's to say it won't over the next 6. All I know is after 8 years of being in that stadium this was the first time, that I can recall, that:
A - There were still a HUGE number of people in the stands for the final kick
B - With the exception of the Jets game, we have been in EVERY game we have played, again, ball hasn't bounced our way but it will sooner or later, that is what the NFL is built on
C - This is the best value that I have received for my entertainment dollar since the teams inception.

I still believe that we are capable of beating every team remaining on our schedule, but I realize that we are capable of losing to every team remaining on our schedule.

Time will tell, but I haven't heard a fat lady yet.......

[Mike]

Originally Posted by WMH

Time will tell, but I haven't heard a fat lady yet.......

No, but she is at the buffet, getting herself warmed up.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by Mike

No, but she is at the buffet, getting herself warmed up.

No, she's actually on the bus with us. She's stuck in the sh-tter. Me and Papanot are trying to wedge her out, but we may need some assistance.

[coloradodude]

What can I possibly say that hasn't been said?


We are an embarrassment and a waste of time. A Parkinson ridden Schottenheimer can build this team into a 12 and 4 winner. Until then tickets should be half price and fans be allowed to bring their boo horns in mass.

[coloradodude]

1970: The Oilers get off to a solid 2-1 start, but weaknesses on both sides of the ball catch up with them as they only win one of their final 11 games, finishing with a 3-10-1, as Coach Wally Lemm, announces his retirement. The Oilers would go on name Ed Hughes to replace him.

1971: The Oilers get off to a dreadful start going winless trough their first 6 games, before beating the Cincinnati Bengals 10-6 at the Astrodome. The Oilers would continue to struggle losing their next three games, sealing the fate of Coach Ed Hughes. The Oilers would win their last three games to finish with a 4-9-1 record, but Hughes was still fired, and replaced by Bill Peterson.

1972: After being blowout in their first two games the Oilers stun the New York Jets 26-20 at the Astrodome. However, the win would end up being the only win on the season, as the Oilers finish with a miserable 1-13 record, while being outscored an embarrassing 380-164 on the season.

1973: To say the Oilers season was miserable would be an understatement, as Coach Bill Peterson is fired after a 0-5 start. The Oilers whose record under Peterson was a humiliating 1-18, would be the led the rest of the season by Hall of Fame Coach Sid Gilman. However, not even Gilman could help, as the Oilers lost their next two games before beating the Colts 31-27 in Baltimore for their only win of the season, as the finished the season with a 1-13 record, being outscored 447-199 on the season.

1983: The Oilers get off to a miserable 1-5 start prompting head Coach Ed Biles to resign. He would be replaced by Chuck Studley but the Oilers would not do any better, winning just two of ten games under Studley, and finishing with a terrible 3-13 record. Following the season the Oilers would make Hugh Campbell its new coach.

1984: With hopes of improving the offense the Oilers win a competitive bidding war to sign CFL star Quarterback Warren Moon. However, with Earl Campbell in full decline, the Oilers decide to cut bait and trade the star Running Back that once dominated the NFL after a 1-5 start. The move would leave a gapping hole at RB but it was the defense that was a greater weak spot as the Oilers finished with a 2-14 record, allowing 457 points on the season.

1994: Without Warren Moon the Oilers get off to a miserable start losing nine of their first ten games before Coach Jack Pardee is fired and replaced by Jeff Fisher. Under Fisher the losing would continue as the Oilers lost their next five games, before beating the New York Jets 24-10 in their final game of the season to finish with a 2-14 record.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by coloradodude

a waste of time.

Completely.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

I think you are missing his point. We have a competitive football team. We are not a dynasty, those are few and far between (and we are too young for that anyway), but we ARE a competitive team.

I'm not asking for a dynasty. I'm asking for a team that can win and take care of business on a fairly consistent basis. And even more, show signs that it will beat the snot out of someone once in awhile. Sure we can win some and lose some and be in most games, but this fan isn't satisfied with that - as I'm sure many are not. Would I take this team over the 4-12 teams of old? Sure, but that doesn't mean I'm content with where we are. And again, I don't think this regime has what it takes to get us even close to a dynasty or even a division title or the Super Bowl. I'm having serious doubts if they can even get us to the playoffs as a wildcard.

No, the fat lady isn't singing, but she's clearing out her throat and warming up the pipes. We're actually lucky that our competitors for AFC wildcard are about as average as we are. It's frustrating that we haven't been able to take advantage of a year when we have a fairly easy schedule and perennial playoff teams like the Steelers, Broncos, Ravens, Titans and Jags are having problems.