O K - Training Camp is coming up and could someone give me a rookie review ?

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle

It makes all the sense in the world right now to put Brown with the first team so he can get the reps and so he can go against Mario. But don't be fooled by that. Kubes is in no way saying that Brown is right now better than Salaam. Salaam doesn't need reps with the first team at this point. Brown does. If the first regular season game was today, I'd be willing to bet good money that Salaam would get the start.

kubiak isn't saying brown is better than salaam, i agree, but he made it pretty clear that it's brown's job to lose by handing him the job at the very first opportunity kubiak had. i don't believe kubiak is the kind of coach that would dangle an opportunity like that to a player (a young, 1st round LT rookie with a ton of potential no less) if he didn't believe that player could handle it.

if the first regular season game was today...oh gee, the veteran over the guy who hasn't even been to a singular training camp? sure. excellent point.

As far a tipping off the other team when you change personnel, teams have used different personnel for different situations for as long as I can remember. Why do you think Brunner is on our team. When he comes in, isn't that tipping the defense?

basically everything i've seen is rotations at almost every spot save qb, o'line and #1 reciever. honestly it seems a little stupid to break continuity on the line for as little reason as "we are running this play". bruener is a TE, and yes, a blocking one moreso than a catching one. yet him coming in wouldn't be as ridiculous as sending in your "running o'line" or your "passing o'line". you wouldn't send in your run-blocking o'line for passing plays or vice versa. breuner can maul on either so he's not a dead give away. besides, if the goal is to get brown to be a better all-around LT wouldn't the reps of a game be exactly what he needs? i'm not trying to suggest winston-justice-ing him or anything but gametime reps are the most valuable reps that there are.

What I am saying is that if Brown beats out Salaam, it will mean that Kubes thinks he is ready to handle NFL speed rushers.

there are a lot of better reasons for brown beating out salaam and some don't even have anything to do with football. he's younger, stronger, faster, more agile, better suited to the system because of all those things, he makes more money, he's a 1st round pick, he was chosen by our ground-level-god....

and since we are talking about him so extensively anyway....

i heard brown's strength (besides athleticism) was pass-blocking and his run-blocking was a little suspect. is that right or do i have it backwards?

[Bigtinylittle]

I get the feeling you are arguing with something I never said.
Of all the LT candidates drafted in the first round last year, and there were either six or eight, I can't remember, Brown was almost universally considered the rawest. That's why he went last. He was drafted on potential, not college results. I'm sure that his technique on the first day of OTA's was just as weak as it was in college. OTA's were closed to the public, so message board posters really don't know how much he has improved so far.

When he gets to full contact with pads and practices are open to the public, I'm sure there will be posts discussing his progress or lack thereof. Arguing that he's the starter now is just arguing semantics.
If you look at my original post, I said I could see it going either way. If you think he has it locked up from the get-go, I think you are way off base.

By the way, if you think his pass blocking was his strength, go back and check to see how many sacks he gave up last year. He has a ton of potential but he's raw, raw, raw.

[NBT]

Didn't Duane Brown only play one year at OLT? Wasn't he a TE prior to that? Correct me if I am wrong.

[cadams]

i believe the chronology is that he was recruited as a tight end, was moved to RT in his sophomore year, stayed there his junior year, and then moved to LT his senior year.

[kravix]

Originally Posted by cadams

i believe the chronology is that he was recruited as a tight end, was moved to RT in his sophomore year, stayed there his junior year, and then moved to LT his senior year.

This is how I see it also. During his Junior year at RT he shut down MW also.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle

I get the feeling you are arguing with something I never said.

uh...let's see, you think that salaam is starting and brown is a reserve? and when it's a running play they'll throw brown out there? you typed it man.

When he gets to full contact with pads and practices are open to the public, I'm sure there will be posts discussing his progress or lack thereof. Arguing that he's the starter now is just arguing semantics.

then why has there been such a big deal made of him taking 1st team reps? how is that semantics? starter means starter.

If you look at my original post, I said I could see it going either way. If you think he has it locked up from the get-go, I think you are way off base.

i don't think he had it locked up. i think he was given the job and it's his to lose, so if he isn't showing that he's going to keep it then salaam steps back in.