So what?

[NBT]

I think it (lack of run game) is really due to the weakness of our interior offense, especially Meyers at center. Singletqary decided to blitz two LB's up the middle to exploit that weakness.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by NBT

I think it (lack of run game) is really due to the weakness of our interior offense, especially Meyers at center. Singletqary decided to blitz two LB's up the middle to exploit that weakness.

Expect more of the same until we figure out how to stop it. We might have to bring a TE into the FB postion to help out on that.

[barrett]

Or we do a better job of disguising when we are going to run and we keep trying to score points even when we have a lead. We put SF on their heels with the passing game in the 1st half and the blitzing LBs were not that big of a concern. It's part of the reason why OD had such a great day. We simply should have done more of it in the 2nd half.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by barrett

Or we do a better job of disguising when we are going to run and we keep trying to score points even when we have a lead. We put SF on their heels with the passing game in the 1st half and the blitzing LBs were not that big of a concern. It's part of the reason why OD had such a great day. We simply should have done more of it in the 2nd half.

It sounds good until Schaub takes one too many sacks or throws an interception. Then we start squawking about how we have got to be able to run the ball to milk time off the clock.

All ideas are great when they work.

Obviously, we were having pretty good success passing the ball to O.D. in the seam and running Patrick Willis away from the line of scrimmage. I think Kubiak or Shannahan start worrying that they might "go to the well" one time too many. Therefore, they try to utilize more formations and run different players on and off the field. The inside runs hopefully set up the outside runs.

I'm not agreeing or arguing here, simply making an observation.

[Big Texas]

Originally Posted by Roy P

It sounds good until Schaub takes one too many sacks or throws an interception. Then we start squawking about how we have got to be able to run the ball to milk time off the clock.

All ideas are great when they work.

Obviously, we were having pretty good success passing the ball to O.D. in the seam and running Patrick Willis away from the line of scrimmage. I think Kubiak or Shannahan start worrying that they might "go to the well" one time too many. Therefore, they try to utilize more formations and run different players on and off the field. The inside runs hopefully set up the outside runs.

I'm not agreeing or arguing here, simply making an observation.

I think we ran one screen for Slaton. If not two. I think in the second half that should have been the staple of the offense. They are just like running the ball,

Yes, Slaton is having fumblitis right now. However he still can wreak havoc off the screen. Screens should definately be a major part of our offense.

Someone said the 3 TE set should be run 10 times a game. I think the screen should be as well. And not always the quick screen split out wide. Mix up the regular screen as well. I tell the screen is the best way to stop a blitzing team. Let me rephrase a SUCCESSFUL screen game is a great way to stop a blitzing team.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Roy P

It sounds good until Schaub takes one too many sacks or throws an interception. Then we start squawking about how we have got to be able to run the ball to milk time off the clock.

All ideas are great when they work.

Obviously, we were having pretty good success passing the ball to O.D. in the seam and running Patrick Willis away from the line of scrimmage. I think Kubiak or Shannahan start worrying that they might "go to the well" one time too many. Therefore, they try to utilize more formations and run different players on and off the field. The inside runs hopefully set up the outside runs.

I'm not agreeing or arguing here, simply making an observation.

I think all this is true in football theory. But when you have an OL that is good at pass blocking and screen blocking in space but bad in tight...

But when you have great WRs and a pass catching TE...

But when you have a RB who fumbles...

But when you have a RB who is better on screens then on the lead...

But when your defense is shaky and gives up 21 in a half to a guy who hasn't played in two years...

And when it has already worked so well that you are up 21-0...

I know I am preaching to the choir here Roy, but does anyone doubt that we are going to lose a game at some point because we take the foot off the accelerator too soon. And one win could mean playoffs or not.

It's like I said last week, if Gary Kubiak was the coach of the patriots last week they would have gone up 10-0 on Tennessee and stopped throwing in an effort to win 10-0. That's just Kubiak to the core. He is throwing right now to get the lead because he has to. But the second he thinks he is able he goes straight back into the shell.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

It's like I said last week, if Gary Kubiak was the coach of the patriots last week they would have gone up 10-0 on Tennessee and stopped throwing in an effort to win 10-0. That's just Kubiak to the core. He is throwing right now to get the lead because he has to. But the second he thinks he is able he goes straight back into the shell.

That is Mike Shanahan to the core. Throw the ball to get a lead then run the ball to kill the clock. So Gary is just doing it the way he was taught. Unfortunately he did not have Dick Vermeil or Sam Wyche as his mentor.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

That is Mike Shanahan to the core. Throw the ball to get a lead then run the ball to kill the clock. So Gary is just doing it the way he was taught. Unfortunately he did not have Dick Vermeil or Sam Wyche as his mentor.

The truth is I agree with Shanahan and Kubiak far more than I do Vermeil or Wyche. I just don't think this team was put together to win that way. We have huge deficiencies to win Kubiak style football games. But we have skill position talent that I would take over anyone in the NFL.

We need to take a page from Ken Wisenhunt who was a Steelers coach under Cowher, calling a steady diet of 3 yards and a cloud of dust. He'd love to run it in Arizona but he is smart enough to recognize what he has (and what he doesn't). And he parlayed it into a superbowl bid with a less talented team than we have.