Official Texans vs. Jaguars Game Thread, 9/28/2009

[popanot]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

As for whether the problem is DC vs DBs, it's both. Bush designed a more aggressive defense which means we'll have more TFLs and more sacls but also more big plays against us because we aren't playing it safe. The problem is that the secondary isn't good enough to play high-risk defense without us getting burned a few times. I actually like the new system better because it beats playing a zone and being picked to death. They just need to find some DBs who can tackle and run all over the field. Right now, we have none.

I don't know which team you're watching, but the team I've been watching for the last 3 weeks has NOT gotten all that many sacks (none yesterday, IIRC), has been giving up big plays at an alarming rate AND has been getting picked to death all over the field regardless of down or distance. Maybe they were getting picked to death last year, but at least they weren't giving up a ton of big plays. What that defense did yesterday against, IMO, one of the worst offenses in the league was sickening. Can't wait for that Colts game...

I was one of the proponents calling for Smith's head, but I have to say at this point, his defense was better than this. I don't think I've ever seen a defense give up so many 3rd-long's in my life. And it's not just the fault of the secondary. Where are the sacks? Where's the pressure? Where are the LB hits? No one is making plays - not even Demeco. This whole defense is fking horrible from the coaching to DL/LB/S.

The season's young and maybe these guys can turn it around, but I think the chances are slim. Oh well, we only have 13 more weeks of this suckitude and then we'll move on with another coaching staff who can maybe get something out of these guys. Why they didn't even take a sniff at hiring Gregg Williams as DC when they had the chance is beyond me. Look what he's done with the Aint's defense who has been notoriously bad. I don't recall them having a defense and secondary filled with of Pro Bowlers...

[TexanJedi]

Originally Posted by popanot

The season's young and maybe these guys can turn it around, but I think the chances are slim. Oh well, we only have 13 more weeks of this suckitude and then we'll move on with another coaching staff who can maybe get something out of these guys. Why they didn't even take a sniff at hiring Gregg Williams as DC when they had the chance is beyond me. Look what he's done with the Aint's defense who has been notoriously bad. I don't recall them having a defense and secondary filled with of Pro Bowlers...

It is somewhat amazing to see what the Saints have done on defense (still early though), or Denver for that matter, and they don't have any more talent than Houston save for a very veteran Darren Sharper at safety (and of course Dawkins in Denver). It just seems that when a move is to be made be it in coaching or hiring or even the draft (not so much as of late) or free agency, the Texans are more likely to make the wrong move, hence their record and history of futility. The draft and personnel selection has gotten better no doubt.

It's too early to say but if this proves to be Kubiak's last stand, the thing that concerns me is the fact that in all likelihood, unless he is sacked too, Rick Smith will be picking a new coach. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't like the thought of that. The frustrating thing is this team has talent, certainly more than we have ever had, but they are missing something, execution, discipline or whatever it is. In the event this season ends in disappointment i could see a new coaching staff (the right one, but who's that?) turning things around very quickly.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by TexanJedi

It is somewhat amazing to see what the Saints have done on defense (still early though), or Denver for that matter, and they don't have any more talent than Houston save for a very veteran Darren Sharper at safety (and of course Dawkins in Denver). It just seems that when a move is to be made be it in coaching or hiring or even the draft (not so much as of late) or free agency, the Texans are more likely to make the wrong move, hence their record and history of futility. The draft and personnel selection has gotten better no doubt.

It's too early to say but if this proves to be Kubiak's last stand, the thing that concerns me is the fact that in all likelihood, unless he is sacked too, Rick Smith will be picking a new coach. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't like the thought of that. The frustrating thing is this team has talent, certainly more than we have ever had, but they are missing something, execution, discipline or whatever it is. In the event this season ends in disappointment i could see a new coaching staff (the right one, but who's that?) turning things around very quickly.

Denver has played bad offensive teams so far. I'll wait to see with them. New Orleans is simply playing with a lead.

Schaub has started slow in all 3 games. If we could get a fast start and play with a lead our issues against the run would not look so big even though we would have solved nothing.

[sinnister]

Originally Posted by barrett

Schaub has started slow in all 3 games. If we could get a fast start and play with a lead our issues against the run would not look so big even though we would have solved nothing.

To play with the lead a few things must happen.

1. We get the ball first
2. We score
3. The defense actually stops the team on their first series

You are asking a lot..........

[popanot]

Originally Posted by barrett

Denver has played bad offensive teams so far. I'll wait to see with them.

It's not like we've been playing the offensive juggernauts of the league. I shudder at the thought of these guys going up against the Cardinals, Bengals, 49ers and Colts over the next few weeks. Hell, with the way they're playing it wouldn't shock me to see the Raiders running game roll them over and JaMarcus Russell having career day. Same with Buffalo...

Every time they got the lead yesterday to the defense just rolled into the fetal position and gave it right up.

[Mike]

The Colts are going to do bad things to us. My blood is going to boil as I watch that chicken necked geek surgically carve us to shreds....again. I can't stand Dallas Clark. He will be running all alone all over the field.

It is really perplexing to me that it seems like we have good enough coaches on that side to be decent defense. Kollar, Rhodes, Holland and Bush. That is not like having complete scrubs figuring out what the hell to do. To have Jacksonville with a horrid QB run up 400 yards is incredible. Just infreakincredible.

[Fonz the Boss]

We are gonna have to trade one of our offensive horses in order to make our defense better. I would say that Owen Daniels is the first to go.