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Old 09-21-2009, 02:48 PM
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Thinking creatively is something that I liked seeing on both sides of the ball. On offense, putting Slaton out wide and leaving an empty backfield was nice. Having AJ, JJ, DA, and both TE's on the field was a nice look. Some of the best ways to run the ball is by spreading out the defense and having numerous targets to unload the ball to if they blitz.

On defense, we were dropping Barwin and blitzing Cushing. Zac Diles got a hit on Collins when he blitzed. If we can keep the offense guessing where the pressure is coming from, the Secondary will benefit. Eugene Wilson's INT was because Collins was getting people in his face. Moving Mario from Right to Left also kept them guessing. Now, if we want an attacking defense, we have to be better at gap responsibility and tackling. Too many times, over pursuit allowed huge gaps for the RB to take advantage of.

Still not sure about some of the calls. The Jacoby Jones TD was an incomplete pass since he went to the ground and lost the ball on the ground. Will be waiting to hear what Mike Pereira has to say about that one. I was scared about the muff/fumble but Steve Tasker did a good job of convincing me that was the right call.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:20 PM
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The Jacoby Jones TD was an incomplete pass since he went to the ground and lost the ball on the ground. Will be waiting to hear what Mike Pereira has to say about that one.
Would have been incomplete IF he had received it in the end zone then he MUST complete the play with full control, but he had control of it in the field of play, so all he needed to do was break the plane. IMO, he actually should have been down at the 1 yard line as it looked like his knee was down, but I will take the TD.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:55 AM
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The Jacoby Jones TD was an incomplete pass since he went to the ground and lost the ball on the ground. Will be waiting to hear what Mike Pereira has to say about that one.
It all started with the overruled TD that the Raiders had against the Chargers that could have been a game winner..... The NFL reviewed that play and I think from now until the end of the season once the catch is made in the end zone and possession is established then that is the end of the play. Another way to see this type of play is when a receiver catches and establishes possession of the ball at the 5 yard line then dives to the pylon and loses the ball when he knocks the pylon with the ball. The pylon play ends once you score the TD. Similarly, when you catch a ball in the end zone and establish possession then that should end that play.... Thats why the play wasnt overruled.
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:46 AM
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Similarly, when you catch a ball in the end zone and establish possession then that should end that play.... Thats why the play wasnt overruled.
In the endzone the rule is that the WR has to maintain possession through contact with the ground.His knee had already hit the ground but in the endzone you have to have possession all the way to the ground...a knee isn't enough in other words. The contact with the ground stipulation was fulfilled when Jacoby landed on the DB. He lost the ball after he "bounced" off the DB and went to the ground a second time.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:01 PM
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In the endzone the rule is that the WR has to maintain possession through contact with the ground.His knee had already hit the ground but in the endzone you have to have possession all the way to the ground...a knee isn't enough in other words. The contact with the ground stipulation was fulfilled when Jacoby landed on the DB. He lost the ball after he "bounced" off the DB and went to the ground a second time.
I replayed this catch again and if thats the case then the ball had broken the plane when his knee had hit the ground before he was spun and landed in the endzone. That means it was determined by the refs that possession was established outside the endzone, his knee hit the ground but the ball was already crossing the plane so that ended the play as a TD.
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