Dunta Watch 2009 - Page 4

Big Texas · #61 08-23-2009, 04:13 PM

IMO, I just don't think that we are getting all the facts. The media has a way of distorting the truth for the purpose of making a story out of it.

With that said I don't know what the underlying factors are that may be influencing Dunta right now, or with Smith. Evidently they both don't wanna budge. That's where we are right now.

As far as his teammates being mad at him. I don't believe so. It may hinder him being a team leader. but as far as team members being upset; I just don't believe so. This type of thing happens often.

Lastly, the remedy for all of this is for Dunta to come in week 1 and play at a high level. If he does the Texans will be fighting to resign him to a long term contract, given the sub par conditions we are in now.

barrett · #62 08-23-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Texas

IMO, I just don't think that we are getting all the facts. The media has a way of distorting the truth for the purpose of making a story out of it.

With that said I don't know what the underlying factors are that may be influencing Dunta right now, or with Smith. Evidently they both don't wanna budge. That's where we are right now.

As far as his teammates being mad at him. I don't believe so. It may hinder him being a team leader. but as far as team members being upset; I just don't believe so. This type of thing happens often.

Lastly, the remedy for all of this is for Dunta to come in week 1 and play at a high level. If he does the Texans will be fighting to resign him to a long term contract, given the sub par conditions we are in now.

Does it?

Every other one of the 14 guys who were hit with the franchise tag are in camp and none of them got any gaurantees about no 2nd year.

And the July 15 deadline means that it is pointless to keep holding out because you can't get a new deal after that anyways. This means Dunta has been missing for the past month for no reason (other than an agent trying to save face after negotiating too hard).

So tell me how many times a guy has held out this far after being franchised. This actually doesn't happen often.

Big Texas · #63 08-23-2009, 09:36 PM

I understand your frustration (and everyone elses). I was simply stating that we don't know what is really going on behind closed doors. Because as you have stated it is too late to sign a long term deal now and two a days are over. So, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe there is something else going on.

It is quite possible that his agent put his foot in his mouth, and pride is keeping him from owning up to it. Or there's something else.

My thing is we need him right now. Whether he is or is not back to the old Dunta. Just his game experience alone is an upgrade over what we will be starting come week 1. Both Bennett and Quinn were getting misused and abused Sunday by a team without Reggie Bush and had committed to the run early on. Imagine what Payton has in store. We definitely need something right now.

I hope he comes back soon.

And plays well

barrett · #64 08-23-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Texas

I understand your frustration (and everyone elses). I was simply stating that we don't know what is really going on behind closed doors. Because as you have stated it is too late to sign a long term deal now and two a days are over. So, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe there is something else going on.

It is quite possible that his agent put his foot in his mouth, and pride is keeping him from owning up to it. Or there's something else.

My thing is we need him right now. Whether he is or is not back to the old Dunta. Just his game experience alone is an upgrade over what we will be starting come week 1. Both Bennett and Quinn were getting misused and abused Sunday by a team without Reggie Bush and had committed to the run early on. Imagine what Payton has in store. We definitely need something right now.

I hope he comes back soon.

And plays well

I hope he comes back and plays well. I still like Dunta. I still hope he gets a deal to stay a Texan. I will still root for him.

But that doesn't mean that all of his teammates like him or agree with what he is doing. I am sure some do and some don't. Those guys are watching there chances at winning diminished by a holdout that doesn't make much sense at this point. I am sure some aren't thrilled about that. And I am sure the longer he continues, the fewer teammates will feel positive about the whole situation.

dalemurphy · #65 08-23-2009, 10:33 PM

I'm tempted to plug him in at DT when he does come back. I bet he'd be more stout against the run than "First ReP" Okam or Amobi Okoye, who has quickly become my second least favorite player on the team (after Kasey Studdard).

nero THE zero · #66 08-24-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Some teammates will have a problem. Some will not. And the longer he goes without reporting when contract negotiations are no longer even possible, the less the team will be on his side.

Yep. Nick Ferguson, for one, has implied a number of times that he does not agree with Dunta's decision to sit out this long.

painekiller · #67 08-24-2009, 01:21 PM

You know there will be guys who are here suffering through two a days, who realize he has no negotiation legs to stand on, thou they may not say a thing publicly, they are not happy with him.

Just like in Minnesota there are guys unhappy with Farve's crap. He knew he wanted to play, he bought a house their last month, he just did not want to go to camp.

Dunta needs to be here as much as we need him.

NBT · #68 08-24-2009, 07:51 PM

Dunta thinks he is making a point, although to be honest with you, I can't imagine what it would be now.

Nconroe · #69 08-24-2009, 08:26 PM

I've been watching for Dunta but havn't seen him yet. I guess he needs to be practicing with our team a little or he'll be about as effective as Farve was last week his first time or two out. whenever seems to my attitude now. kinda disappointed in him for not being here, but hope he decides to show up soon. if rumors on offer to him are true, or close to true, he should have signed in February. And I hope our young guys learn to tackle now and take the right angles. probably they will learn will all the reps they are getting.

NBT · #70 08-25-2009, 08:49 PM

What should be making his teamates mad is that even when he reports (IF), at the start of the season ( so he doesn' miss any of that $9.7M), then he will still have to learn secondary coach David Gibbs way of playing, and will mean he will have to sit a couple of games just to come up to speed. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! I have absolutely no respect left for Mr. Robinson.

Arky · #71 09-05-2009, 07:08 PM

After contract dispute, Robinson reporting to Texans

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6604719.html

American Idle · #72 09-05-2009, 07:49 PM

Agree with his and/or the organizations decisions or not, he is still the best CB we can put out there right now. Id rather a not up to speed Dunta than anyone else we have right now starting. He should be in great shape, just not game shape.

After this preseason, we need him.

bckey · #73 09-05-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by American Idle

Agree with his and/or the organizations decisions or not, he is still the best CB we can put out there right now. Id rather a not up to speed Dunta than anyone else we have right now starting. He should be in great shape, just not game shape.

After this preseason, we need him.

I still think we need to rid ourselves of this piece of crap. So we treat him different because he is perceived to be our best option at cb? It sends a bad message to all the players that busted their tails through camp and preseason.

nunusguy · #74 09-06-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bckey

I still think we need to rid ourselves of this piece of crap. So we treat him different because he is perceived to be our best option at cb? It sends a bad message to all the players that busted their tails through camp and preseason.

You're way out of line calling Robinson "this piece of crap" !
I've had a different attitude about him now myself and don't appreciate the way he handled this situation, but I'm sure I dunno the whole story here ?
I think GM Smith himself has admitted to reneging on a promise to not tag Robinson, and that no doubt has complicated the situation and was out-of-line on Smiths part IMO.
No matter, he doesn't for a moment deserve the kind of label you've put on him ! Maybe you just had one too many - it was Saturday night ?

Big Texas · #75 09-06-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bckey

perceived to be our best option at cb?

At this point all we can on is track record. And right now he is our best option at corner. McCain is playing OK but did you see that move Percy Harvin put on him to the corner of the end zone. If he would've caught that...

Maybe dunta's trainer has gotten him back up to speed. Maybe he comes back worse. Who knows. However, at this point we need all the help we can get.

Have we forgotten Reeves is injured...

TheMatrix31 · #76 09-06-2009, 09:16 AM

We need him, so I don't care.

WMH · #77 09-06-2009, 10:14 AM

Q & A with Solomon:
http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon..._physical.html
Couple of points:

Have you done some football workouts? Will it take long for you to get up to speed?
"I worked at IMG with (former Jaguars receiver) Matt Jones. We went at it, basically every day.

Will you be ready to start against the Jets?
"I think so, but I'll know more about that situation as the week goes. It won't take long to adjust once I start playing.

NBT · #78 09-06-2009, 01:19 PM

According to the chronic, Dunta's not mad anymore. Just plain warms the cockles of my heart to hear him say that. He also doesn't want to lose a single dollar of that filthy contract he will be "forced" to sign. ($9.97M)! Message: just hurry up and learn Coach Gibbs style of play, so you don't miss any gametime.

edo783 · #79 09-06-2009, 03:45 PM

OK, your back. Now go out and EARN that 9.9 million top 5 money.

NBT · #80 09-10-2009, 01:08 PM

I am foreced to admit now that Robinson is back, if he just stabilizes that secondary with his leadership, that will erase all my ill-will. Well, most of it anyway.