Dunta Watch 2009

popanot · #1 08-22-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dennis2112

I just think that will not go over too well with many of his teammates.

I don't think his teammates will be bothered by this at all. They're all of the same fraternity, and while they all may not be selfish or take the same route as DR, they understand they need make as much as they can when they can. As for DR, I know it's a longshot, but my hope is they find a couple guys who can play well enough to let DR sit on the pine for awhile or at least force him into the nickel role. That would screw him over pretty good for next year.

NBT · #2 08-22-2009, 12:28 PM

I know he has been working out somewhere, but not going 1 on 1 with NFL type receivers (they are all in camps). I don't see how he can be that sharp if he doesn't report until the first game.

edo783 · #3 08-22-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT

I know he has been working out somewhere, but not going 1 on 1 with NFL type receivers (they are all in camps). I don't see how he can be that sharp if he doesn't report until the first game.

He can't be and that means we will actually be spending MORE than 10 million on him. For 10 million you expect him to be fully up and going from game one through 16. If he isn't you are spending more than you thought you would because your getting less than what you are paying for.

barrett · #4 08-22-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by popanot

I don't think his teammates will be bothered by this at all. They're all of the same fraternity, and while they all may not be selfish or take the same route as DR, they understand they need make as much as they can when they can. As for DR, I know it's a longshot, but my hope is they find a couple guys who can play well enough to let DR sit on the pine for awhile or at least force him into the nickel role. That would screw him over pretty good for next year.

Some teammates will have a problem. Some will not. And the longer he goes without reporting when contract negotiations are no longer even possible, the less the team will be on his side.

nero THE zero · #5 08-24-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Some teammates will have a problem. Some will not. And the longer he goes without reporting when contract negotiations are no longer even possible, the less the team will be on his side.

Yep. Nick Ferguson, for one, has implied a number of times that he does not agree with Dunta's decision to sit out this long.

painekiller · #6 08-24-2009, 01:21 PM

You know there will be guys who are here suffering through two a days, who realize he has no negotiation legs to stand on, thou they may not say a thing publicly, they are not happy with him.

Just like in Minnesota there are guys unhappy with Farve's crap. He knew he wanted to play, he bought a house their last month, he just did not want to go to camp.

Dunta needs to be here as much as we need him.

NBT · #7 08-24-2009, 07:51 PM

Dunta thinks he is making a point, although to be honest with you, I can't imagine what it would be now.

Nconroe · #8 08-24-2009, 08:26 PM

I've been watching for Dunta but havn't seen him yet. I guess he needs to be practicing with our team a little or he'll be about as effective as Farve was last week his first time or two out. whenever seems to my attitude now. kinda disappointed in him for not being here, but hope he decides to show up soon. if rumors on offer to him are true, or close to true, he should have signed in February. And I hope our young guys learn to tackle now and take the right angles. probably they will learn will all the reps they are getting.

NBT · #9 08-25-2009, 08:49 PM

What should be making his teamates mad is that even when he reports (IF), at the start of the season ( so he doesn' miss any of that $9.7M), then he will still have to learn secondary coach David Gibbs way of playing, and will mean he will have to sit a couple of games just to come up to speed. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! I have absolutely no respect left for Mr. Robinson.

nunusguy · #10 08-23-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by popanot

I don't think his teammates will be bothered by this at all. They're all of the same fraternity

Actually they're all of the same union and Smith, Kubiak, & McNair are the Company. And it's a union/company matter so I'd imagine the Texans' players to a man support Robinson, especially if they know there's some truth to reports that Smith promished not to tag Robinson.

NBT · #11 08-23-2009, 01:42 PM

Smith may have said they would not put the F-tag on him when they were deep in negotiation for a new long term contract. When Dunta's side started playing hardball, so did Smith. Besides it is just good business. As I have said before, Dunta cannot have it both ways.

Big Texas · #12 08-23-2009, 04:13 PM

IMO, I just don't think that we are getting all the facts. The media has a way of distorting the truth for the purpose of making a story out of it.

With that said I don't know what the underlying factors are that may be influencing Dunta right now, or with Smith. Evidently they both don't wanna budge. That's where we are right now.

As far as his teammates being mad at him. I don't believe so. It may hinder him being a team leader. but as far as team members being upset; I just don't believe so. This type of thing happens often.

Lastly, the remedy for all of this is for Dunta to come in week 1 and play at a high level. If he does the Texans will be fighting to resign him to a long term contract, given the sub par conditions we are in now.

barrett · #13 08-23-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Texas

IMO, I just don't think that we are getting all the facts. The media has a way of distorting the truth for the purpose of making a story out of it.

With that said I don't know what the underlying factors are that may be influencing Dunta right now, or with Smith. Evidently they both don't wanna budge. That's where we are right now.

As far as his teammates being mad at him. I don't believe so. It may hinder him being a team leader. but as far as team members being upset; I just don't believe so. This type of thing happens often.

Lastly, the remedy for all of this is for Dunta to come in week 1 and play at a high level. If he does the Texans will be fighting to resign him to a long term contract, given the sub par conditions we are in now.

Does it?

Every other one of the 14 guys who were hit with the franchise tag are in camp and none of them got any gaurantees about no 2nd year.

And the July 15 deadline means that it is pointless to keep holding out because you can't get a new deal after that anyways. This means Dunta has been missing for the past month for no reason (other than an agent trying to save face after negotiating too hard).

So tell me how many times a guy has held out this far after being franchised. This actually doesn't happen often.

Big Texas · #14 08-23-2009, 09:36 PM

I understand your frustration (and everyone elses). I was simply stating that we don't know what is really going on behind closed doors. Because as you have stated it is too late to sign a long term deal now and two a days are over. So, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe there is something else going on.

It is quite possible that his agent put his foot in his mouth, and pride is keeping him from owning up to it. Or there's something else.

My thing is we need him right now. Whether he is or is not back to the old Dunta. Just his game experience alone is an upgrade over what we will be starting come week 1. Both Bennett and Quinn were getting misused and abused Sunday by a team without Reggie Bush and had committed to the run early on. Imagine what Payton has in store. We definitely need something right now.

I hope he comes back soon.

And plays well

barrett · #15 08-23-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Texas

I understand your frustration (and everyone elses). I was simply stating that we don't know what is really going on behind closed doors. Because as you have stated it is too late to sign a long term deal now and two a days are over. So, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe there is something else going on.

It is quite possible that his agent put his foot in his mouth, and pride is keeping him from owning up to it. Or there's something else.

My thing is we need him right now. Whether he is or is not back to the old Dunta. Just his game experience alone is an upgrade over what we will be starting come week 1. Both Bennett and Quinn were getting misused and abused Sunday by a team without Reggie Bush and had committed to the run early on. Imagine what Payton has in store. We definitely need something right now.

I hope he comes back soon.

And plays well

I hope he comes back and plays well. I still like Dunta. I still hope he gets a deal to stay a Texan. I will still root for him.

But that doesn't mean that all of his teammates like him or agree with what he is doing. I am sure some do and some don't. Those guys are watching there chances at winning diminished by a holdout that doesn't make much sense at this point. I am sure some aren't thrilled about that. And I am sure the longer he continues, the fewer teammates will feel positive about the whole situation.