Connor Barwin Sacks Prediction

[HPF Bob]

Is the rebuilt Big East really all that better than the MAC? After they lost Miami, VA Tech and BC to the ACC, they added Cincy, Memphis and Louisville. Three metro basketball schools. I suppose I could use some ranking data but, in general, the Big East has fallen off in a big way and is part of the BCS only because no conference has ever been kicked out. I don't think the Big East is as good as the Mountain West.

Yes, it is important that Barwin has had a year of college at DE but I'm just not that impressed with the quality of the Big East. IMO, there's only four quality football conferences - Big 10, Big 12, SEC and ACC.

[barrett]

In 2008 Cincinnati played 5 ranked teams. In 2004 Western Michigan played no ranked teams. In 2008 Cincinnate won 11 games and went to a BCS bowl. In 2004 Western Michigan went 5-7. These are not two programs anywhere near each other.

In addition to the college differences, there are big differences in how the two conferences produce pro talent. The big east has had more than twice as many players drafted this decade (120 vs 57) and five times as many 1st rounders (10 vs 2).

There may be a big difference between the SEC and the Big East, but there is an even bigger difference between the Big East and the MAC. Barwin playing for Cincinnati is nothing like Babin playing for Western Michigan.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by barrett

I would say the rawness and athleticism are far more like Peek than Babin.

I tend to agree with this. I don't see much Babin in Barwin's skillset.

Originally Posted by nunusguy

And is Jason Babin even still in the NFL ?

The Eagles signed him to a one-year contract on 8/4. I'm guessing he might not be much more than a camp body for them though...?

Originally Posted by cloudwasher

Im going to be conservative in my estimate and say that based on his limited game play (he'll be off the bench... not likely to overtake antonio for the starting job, more likely to come in on pass rushing situations) and his lack of technique (was only a DE for one year in Cincy, great athleticism and potential but he has a lot to learn as far as his technique goes), He'll get 3 IMO.. although I wouldn't be surprised at him getting as many as 5 or as few as 1 1/2...

I'll grant you the lack of technique. But since he is expected to see the field in pass situations, that's usually when the sacks occur anyway. Six sacks is a safe guesstimate. Heck, Okoye got six sacks as a rookie, so sometimes it might be about just being in the right place at the right time, and being opposite Mario Williams is usually enough to qualify.

[Blitzwood]

I think he's gonna suprise the heck out of everybody and get 9.5 sks his first year, barring any injury of course.

[painekiller]

FYI my current vote is 0, because we are to far from the season, and we have not seen him play against the better talent.

I will up the bid as the player develops.

[NBT]

Booo.....PK! Where's your sense of adventure? Seriously though, I put Barwin in a much higher position than Peek or that other idiot we gave way too much for.