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Old 04-30-2009, 11:02 AM
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Are you serious? They were the top offense and top running team over his tenure in Denver that included 2 superbowl wins. And you are going to sit with a straight face and say that their system is a failure because Shanahan only lasted 3 times as long as the average NFL coach. And only won 2 superbowls (which is 2nd best in the NFL over his tenure I believe). Genius.

I for one would love for the Texans to have the kind of "downfall" that results in a decade of high powered offense, winning, and multiple superbowls.
I'm not saying their system is a failure, I am just saying it could have been better. Yes they won two superbowls but Schaub is not Elway. I just believe that we're basically a turf toe away (Slaton) from being a 6-10 team.
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:56 PM
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I just believe that we're basically a turf toe away (Slaton) from being a 6-10 team.
I am also concerned about Slaton's durability. Last season was a pleasant surprise, and perhaps I'm just a cynic, but I can envision a scenario where we overuse Slaton and expose him to possible injury. Ideally, I'd like to see Slaton getting about 15 touches per game. However, I'm not very confident that the other RBs on the roster can take on the other rushing attempts and have the offense not miss a beat. There is some hope about Foster and Johnson to make the roster and we may still be able to get another RB as a FA or in a trade. On a positive note, perhaps the additions of Caldwell and Hill will help keep the big powerful tacklers off of Slaton allowing him to take less impactful hits.
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:36 PM
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I'm not saying their system is a failure, I am just saying it could have been better. Yes they won two superbowls but Schaub is not Elway. I just believe that we're basically a turf toe away (Slaton) from being a 6-10 team.
Your whole premise is flawed anyway. Kubiak has shown he is willing to draft RB in the high(est) rounds. Why don't you address that?
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:42 PM
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I'm not saying their system is a failure, I am just saying it could have been better. Yes they won two superbowls but Schaub is not Elway. I just believe that we're basically a turf toe away (Slaton) from being a 6-10 team.
Your logic is terrible though. You say they might have been better which is unrealisitic considering the success they achieved. But even if they could have done better, it wasn't RB that was holding them back. They were the top rushing team in the NFL during Shanahan's tenure.

By attempting to piggyback your legitimate concern over the Texans RB situation to the Broncos, you have ruined what could have been a valid point (we need help at RB). And I just don't understand what could have possessed you to put our running game issues at the feet of the two best running game coaches of modern NFL football (shanahan and gibbs).

With all of that said I too am concerned we don't have more at RB. I wish we'd drafted one (though not in the first two rounds). But it is the one position where it is still possible to easily upgrade. RBs are constantly cut and become available more often than any other position. Edgerin James just hit the market and has size and great durability. If not him, then I am confident we will find someone who can be a backup RB and carry the ball 10 times a game.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:45 PM
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RBs are constantly cut and become available more often than any other position. Edgerin James just hit the market and has size and great durability. If not him, then I am confident we will find someone who can be a backup RB and carry the ball 10 times a game.
Does anybody believe that Selvin Young could carry the ball 10 times a game? He was pretty effective in Denver a couple of years ago and he's only 25 years old.
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:27 AM
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Every RB gets hurt, period. No matter what round you draft the guy he will be hurt at some point. Why guarantee a large amount of money to a guy that in most cases will not last more than 3 years.

Blaming Shanahan's job loss on not drafting a RB in the early rounds is showing a very low knowledge of the Denver trouble's and draft problem the last few years.

Shanahan wasted picks, and he did not ever give a defense time or the resources to develop.

It was time for him to go in Denver, but his replacement sure has made a ton of mistakes so far. Glad I am a Texans fan
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Old 05-10-2009, 01:22 PM
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Maybe we stole the genius behind Denver's drafting when we signed Rick Smith. He has certainly paid off for us.
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Old 05-12-2009, 01:44 AM
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Maybe we stole the genius behind Denver's drafting when we signed Rick Smith. He has certainly paid off for us.
Go back and look at the drafts Denver had since they won the Super Bowl before saying they had anyone there that could be called genius.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:03 PM
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You may be right, but he has certainly brought our drafting out of the dark ages.
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