Amobi Okoye Has a Sore Knee

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Joshua

This is a big year for Amobi. I realize he's young and DTs take a while to develop but we have to start getting more from him or he needs to see his playing time reduced.

There is one thing that I wish some reporter would ask Kubiak. I think it was Mario who finally divulged that the DL was basically instructed to read and react rather than attack. I want to know if this was their first choice in defensive philosophy or one born out of necessity. I also would like to know when they decided to implement this philosophy. The reason I ask is if this was already our ingrained DL philosophy before Amobi's draft, why draft him? Putting him in a read and react defense negates the only trait that made him a first rounder; namely, quickness to shoot the gap. There seems as though there may have been a disconnect between defensive philosophy and drafting players who could implement it. I would really like to see a better explanation of these sorts of things from Kubiak because right now, it looks like we drafted a gap shooter who's not particularly strong at the point of attack and then forced him to play to his weaknesses.

I have a feeling keeping the OL off Ryans was a major reason for the read react scheme. If the DL is penetratring then the LB do not have the ability to flow. They must all have lanes and they must cover their lane. Plus we have not had a big run stuffing safety, so that also most likely came in to play.

[Keith]

scout.com says there is no structural damage.

http://hou.scout.com/2/859331.html

[NBT]

Clean out some of the floaters and let Amobi get back to doing his thing for us.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by NBT

let Amobi get back to doing his thing for us.

What's that? Getting pushed around at the line of scrimmage?

[Bigtinylittle]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I have a feeling keeping the OL off Ryans was a major reason for the read react scheme. If the DL is penetratring then the LB do not have the ability to flow. They must all have lanes and they must cover their lane. Plus we have not had a big run stuffing safety, so that also most likely came in to play.

Right now I'm expecting a run stuffing SS to be a first day pick for us in the draft next year.

[nero THE zero]

LZ with some pretty damning stuff on Amobi today.

He has not been the biggest Amobi fan for a while now. But, today he mentioned a conversation he had with a pro-personnel scout regarding the Texas. The scout told him a couple of things.

1. Mario is the second best and most impactful defensive player in the game (didn't say who the first was, though I'd love to hear that.)

2. He doesn't think Amobi is any good. "Simply doesn't think he's a football player."

I was concerned with what I perceived to be Amobi's maturity issues at the end of the first season and into his second preseason. I even made a post about it and got lambasted on TT. But, then Amobi was a zero all of last season and that snowball seems to be building momentum.

Things aren't looking good for him, IMO.

[papabear]

I still say Amobi has at least this season before we can pass judgement. I wasn't happy with his play last year, but he was hurt...look at the difference in Mario his rookie season when he was hurting and when he was healthy. In Okoye's rookie year he flashed early and then hit a wall. If a 19 year old didn't hit a wall in his rookie year I would be surpised. He might not ever meet expectations, but patience was the word of the day when he was drafted. I don't think his rookie year and one more year with nagging injuries is a fair enough sample to call him out with the "b" word.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by papabear

I still say Amobi has at least this season before we can pass judgement. I wasn't happy with his play last year, but he was hurt...look at the difference in Mario his rookie season when he was hurting and when he was healthy. In Okoye's rookie year he flashed early and then hit a wall. If a 19 year old didn't hit a wall in his rookie year I would be surpised. He might not ever meet expectations, but patience was the word of the day when he was drafted. I don't think his rookie year and one more year with nagging injuries is a fair enough sample to call him out with the "b" word.

Ya, I agree with this. I might add, give Kollar some time with him and then he (Kollar) will probably be able to determine whether Amobi remains as a starter....

[Nconroe]

Yeah, considering Cushing and Barwin are both older that Amobi, I think we should give him more time. And he does have the Texans sack record with 5.5 sacks, slightly more than Mario had as a rookie. New coach, new attitude, healthy, I expect him to do well.

[NBT]

What's with all the negativity on Amobi? If you want to pick on a DL pick on underachieving Travis Johnson!