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Old 04-14-2009, 09:30 PM
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There are at least 4 WR's other than Crabtree in this draft that I would rather have than Edwards.
Care to name them?

While there very well could be four receivers that prove better than Edwards out of this draft, I'd have a hard time picking out with confidence who they might be after Crabtree. Draft picks bust at an alarming rate, even 50% or so of the early round prospects.

Edwards is something of a safer bet, especially if you think there's a possibility his poor play and attitude last year (at least in some part) could be contributed to someone or something other than himself. If he does end up with the Giants, what with their winning environment, Pro Bowl QB, solid RB, good defense, etc... (collectively known as things not found in Cleveland 2008), I think we have a decent chance of seeing the 2007 version of Edwards.
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:38 PM
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So we give up a mid 1st round pick and 2 4th round picks and a 6th round pick for a late 1st and an early 2nd? Hmmm, me no likey.
Me neither. The fourth round has been like gold for us. That plus moving down to the Giants pick doesn't equate with getting a second-rounder.
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:23 PM
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So let me get this straight... Anderson sucked, the OL sucked, Lewis sucked, Winslow sucked, their D sucked, the coaching and GM sucked and were fired, yet, it was all Edwards' fault the Browns sucked. Yep, makes sense to me... Not saying Edwards didn't play a role or have bad year, but that team had problems everywhere and it could certainly impact a player's production and attitude.
Show me where I said Edwards was the reason the Browns sucked. Never happened so get youre facts straight. I said he sucked and isnt worth a first round pick. I stand by that.

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That article you quote was in week 6. I wonder if the report still felt that Edwards was the biggest disappointment at the end of the season after he saw how awful that team and the coaching/FO was. I watched and followed the Browns a lot last year because I have both Anderson and Quinn on my FFL, and trust me, I benched Anderson and went with Joe Flacco (A ROOKIE!) very early in the season because Anderson was so bad. And it wasn't Edwards' fault. Anderson made all of their receivers look bad.
There are many many many articles about Edwards and his inconsistancy just google Edwards and dropped posses and pull up a chair when you have alot of time to waste. In fact I have never been to a Browns MB before but I bet that if you go to one and read what they (the fans) have to say about Edwards it wouldnt be very nice.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:17 AM
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There are many many many articles about Edwards and his inconsistancy just google Edwards and dropped posses and pull up a chair when you have alot of time to waste.
That's OK, I'll let you do that for me.

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In fact I have never been to a Browns MB before but I bet that if you go to one and read what they (the fans) have to say about Edwards it wouldnt be very nice.
Should I care what Browns fans have to say? Does anyone take what we say here as gospel or think we really know what the hell is going on with a player or the team at any given time? You have your opinion and that's fine. I disagree and would be willing to bet that if the Browns trade him, they're going to end up regretting it. I think the situation in Cleveland last year was awful, similar to Capers' last year here, where the FO and coaching was so inept it impacted a lot of players and their attitude and production. I feel Edwards is talented enough to turn it around, and if the Browns are dumb enough to let him go for a late #1, I'd be first in line to offer it. JHMO.
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:35 PM
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That's OK, I'll let you do that for me.

Should I care what Browns fans have to say? Does anyone take what we say here as gospel or think we really know what the hell is going on with a player or the team at any given time? You have your opinion and that's fine. I disagree and would be willing to bet that if the Browns trade him, they're going to end up regretting it. I think the situation in Cleveland last year was awful, similar to Capers' last year here, where the FO and coaching was so inept it impacted a lot of players and their attitude and production. I feel Edwards is talented enough to turn it around, and if the Browns are dumb enough to let him go for a late #1, I'd be first in line to offer it. JHMO.
OK we dissagree. I dont have a problem with you having a different opinion than me. I just felt like you were putting words in my mouth. Oh and Im too lazy to do that for you. I think he will drop a few passes like he always has and the NY media/fans will eat him up. He want be able to take it and will fall apart. Thats what kind of a person I thiink he is. THats the great thing about message boards, a year from now we can look back and see what we were thinking.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:22 AM
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What would hurt the Texans chances of trading back is that the Lions trade their #20 plus a little more to the Browns for Quinn. That's one less QB needy team picking behind us and one extra QB still left on the board.
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:32 AM
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I was thinking last night about the possibility that the Broncos might trade 12 & 18 to Cleveland for Brady Quinn and #5 so that they could get B.J. Raji for their new 3-4 defense. That is more likely if Sanchez goes #4.
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