3 Round Mock draft

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

Man, I just don't think I could leave Unger and EWood sitting there in the second round, not with Studdard and CWhite as my primary backups for a less than stellar group of starting interior olinemen... And, I would also have a hard time passing up LEnglish and Sintim.

To simplify, we gotta trade down out of 15 and collect a bucket full of second and third round picks!

So you would rather pick up Unger to make our backups better? There may be more priority in making the starting Secondary improved from last season.

I think the bigger bang for the buck is to have a playmaker on the field for all three downs rather than a guy who comes in on passing situations only. Now, if you think English or Sintim can play the SAM on first and 2nd down, then you might have an argument. I just think that they may be more of a liability in space on 1st and 2nd down as a SAM than they make a positive impact on 3rd down.

I won't argue that these players have talent, I'm just trying to think who makes the TEAM better overall.

[Roy P]

Since there was a trade with Buf and Phi, I thought I'd update my first round to reflect that move....

1 Det QB Matt Stafford
2 StL LT Eugene Monroe
3 KC LT Jason Smith
4 Sea ILB Aaron Curry
5 Cle QB Mark Sanchez
6 Cinci DT BJ Raji
7 Oak OLB Brian Orakpo
8 Jax WR Michael Crabtree
9 GB OT Michael Oher
10 SF CB Malcolm Jenkins
11 Buf DE Everette Brown
12 Den OLB Aaron Maybin
13 Was OT Andre Smith
14 NO OLB Brian Cushing
15 Hou OLB Clay Matthews
16 SD ILB Rey Maualuga
17 NYJ DE Tyson Jackson
18 Den OLB Connor Barwin
19 TB QB Josh Freeman
20 Det DE Robert Ayers
21 Phi TE Brandon Pettigrew
22 Minn WR Jeremy Maclin
23 NEP CB Vontae Davis
24 Atl DE Michael Johnson
25 Mia WR Hakeem Nicks
26 Bal ILB James Laurinaitis
27 Ind DT Peria Jerry
28 Buf OT Ebon Britton
29 NYG WR Darius Heyward-Bey
30 Tenn DT Ziggy Hood
31 Arz RB Knowshon Moreno
32 Pitt OG Max Unger

[James]

If Cleveland drafts Mark Sanchez I'll eat my own nose.

[Bigtinylittle]

Originally Posted by James

If Cleveland drafts Mark Sanchez I'll eat my own nose.

If no backs go until 31, the NFL has changed a lot more than I realized.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle

If no backs go until 31, the NFL has changed a lot more than I realized.

We shall see. Perhaps one goes at #27, then #31.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by James

If Cleveland drafts Mark Sanchez I'll eat my own nose.

They may have to when they trade Brady Quinn.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

So you would rather pick up Unger to make our backups better? There may be more priority in making the starting Secondary improved from last season.

I think the bigger bang for the buck is to have a playmaker on the field for all three downs rather than a guy who comes in on passing situations only. Now, if you think English or Sintim can play the SAM on first and 2nd down, then you might have an argument. I just think that they may be more of a liability in space on 1st and 2nd down as a SAM than they make a positive impact on 3rd down.

I won't argue that these players have talent, I'm just trying to think who makes the TEAM better overall.

It seems like you are working off a lot of assumptions... For instance, the assumption that Unger can't beat out CMyers in the near future. Or, the assumption that our three interior olmen will all not miss time this year. Or, Chester Pitts will be re-signed before next season.

Even assuming all of that, I just don't think you can draft for immediate impact. Just take good players, particularly at positions where your depth is bad and then let competition, injuries, etc... work itself out.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

It seems like you are working off a lot of assumptions... For instance, the assumption that Unger can't beat out CMyers in the near future. Or, the assumption that our three interior olmen will all not miss time this year. Or, Chester Pitts will be re-signed before next season.

Even assuming all of that, I just don't think you can draft for immediate impact. Just take good players, particularly at positions where your depth is bad and then let competition, injuries, etc... work itself out.

Since nobody here works for the Texans, we have to work with assumptions. You don't have to agree with the premise and if you don't, you'll obviously come up with different conclusions.

It appears that you are assuming that Unger will beat out Myers and our interior OL will miss time. That's your perogative.

[Blitzwood]

Roy,

Don't you think we should spread our first 5 picks a little more than using 3 on DB's, especially since we still haven't seen what Barber and Molden are capable of doing?

I like the players, but don't know if they'll be riding the bench like the previous players mentioned were last year. Kubiak has some strange commitments to play players that is mindbogglingly, IMO.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Roy,

Don't you think we should spread our first 5 picks a little more than using 3 on DB's, especially since we still haven't seen what Barber and Molden are capable of doing?

I've seen enough of Barber to know that he can be upgraded. If I had a chance to draft Troy Polamalu, I'm not going to pass on him because I have Barber and Harrison on my roster.

As long as I'm uncertain about Dunta Robinson, I don't mind adding a CB via the draft.

Now, my point of emphasis is to take the BPA during the draft. If they happen to be DBs, then so be it.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I've seen enough of Barber to know that he can be upgraded. If I had a chance to draft Troy Polamalu, I'm not going to pass on him because I have Barber and Harrison on my roster.

We'd probably never know we had a T.Polamalu because he'd be rinding the bench while some overpaid journeyman got the minutes.

That's the point.

[Roy P]

Well, If I were the GM and the coach kept T. P. on the bench while a lesser talent got all the playing time, I might start looking for a new coach.

I've talked about this before, but I am not sure how the relationship between Smith is vs. how it should be. I understand the two needing to work together to develop an identity and a philosophy. However, I buy into the Head Coach working for the GM model. Maybe it's my prior military service, but that's just the way I see it. My observations of Smith is that he takes a lot of input from Kubiak. I would imagine if Kubiak fails to make progress this season, then both would have to be shown the door. Smith would not be able to say, I wanted Kubiak to play better player than player X but he just wouldn't listen, so I passed on drafting/signing player Y.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

We'd probably never know we had a T.Polamalu because he'd be rinding the bench while some overpaid journeyman got the minutes.

That's the point.

And where do you think this is happening? You aren't attempting to describe the situation at safety I hope.