At The Combine

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Best 20-yard shuttle time (4.34) & 3-cone drill (7.06) along with top 40 time for OLineman. Athletically he's obviously highly qualified for ZB system.

Yeah, sort of like Adam Koets or Brandon Frye.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yeah, sort of like Adam Koets or Brandon Frye.

We're going to regret letting Brandon Frye get away. I thought he looked very good in the preseason last year. I thought it was a big mistake to keep Studdard on the roster and let him go to the practice squad. On the other hand, there is the slight possibility that Alex Gibbs is better at evaluating NFL Oline talent than I am. I guess time will tell.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

We're going to regret letting Brandon Frye get away. I thought he looked very good in the preseason last year. I thought it was a big mistake to keep Studdard on the roster and let him go to the practice squad. On the other hand, there is the slight possibility that Alex Gibbs is better at evaluating NFL Oline talent than I am. I guess time will tell.

You're forgetting that Studdard badysat Kubiaks kids and his father was Kubiaks buddy. That was his key to making the roster because he certainly wasn't a player qualified to play in the Texans' system they were running under Gibbs.
And was there really that much difference between Frye and Duane Brown ? Well actually I guess there was. It was the investment involved - one was a first-rounder and the other a fifth-rounder.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

We're going to regret letting Brandon Frye get away. I thought he looked very good in the preseason last year. I thought it was a big mistake to keep Studdard on the roster and let him go to the practice squad. On the other hand, there is the slight possibility that Alex Gibbs is better at evaluating NFL Oline talent than I am. I guess time will tell.

You saw it the way I saw it. I was on the front row for many of the one on one drills during the summer and Studdard showed no feet. While Frye showed some ability.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

You saw it the way I saw it. I was on the front row for many of the one on one drills during the summer and Studdard showed no feet. While Frye showed some ability.

It was a lot of fun to watch the tackle play in the second half of our preseason games: Butler and Frye both looked really good, I thought. I was very disappointed when I saw Frye didn't make the roster. I would have had him on the roster ahead of Studdard and Salaam. People over at texanstalk.com raked me over the coals for those comments in August and September.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yeah, sort of like Adam Koets or Brandon Frye.

I thought you lived by those 3-cone & shuttle times in rating the potential of OLineman for the ZBS ?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I thought you lived by those 3-cone & shuttle times in rating the potential of OLineman for the ZBS ?

Yeah, but they have to be able to block. I like what I see from Eric Wood, for example. Good times, but ALSO good play on the field.

[Roy P]

What's the over/under on James Laurinitis and a 4.81? He might last until the 3rd round. Ouch!

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Roy P

What's the over/under on James Laurinitis and a 4.81? He might last until the 3rd round. Ouch!

Wanna bet??? What did Demeco run I cant remember?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by mussop

What did Demeco run I cant remember?

4.65, which would make him the 4th fastest LB in this draft.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I like what I see from Eric Wood, for example.

Yep. He really whipped up on Raji in the SB game.

[jppaul]

I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

[bono]

I like Patrick Chung but i think he might be a 2nd rounder and not slip to the 3rd

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by bono

I like Patrick Chung but i think he might be a 2nd rounder and not slip to the 3rd

He is a solid 2nd rounder, i have him as the #1 safety, yes above Dumas.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by jppaul

I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

I've been thinking that about Vontae Davis. Then I saw what Chris Clemons, David Bruton, CJ Spillman, and Chip Vaughn did today. Maybe I don't have to spend a 1st round pick on an impact S afterall.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by jppaul

I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

I know that's the usual response when a CB has good size and is a little slower than most people like. They really are two different skill sets though, especially if your talking about a CB who has played mostly man coverage. I wonder what the success rate is on guuys who try to make that switch when they get to the NFL? I would rather do it right away then wait a few years. Most CB's are going to resist it though, unless it's a way to extend there career (or their only chance to make a roster) for one simple reason...CB's make more money than Safeties.

[idymoe]

Anyone want to talk about Stephen Hodge S TCU 5'11 5/8 234 lbs. Ran a 4.49 forty. A tweener, TCU used him at safety and will. He blitzed a lot & had 8 sacks. Was a qb in high school. Big hitter, would be good on special teams. 6th or 7th round, maybe?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by idymoe

Anyone want to talk about Stephen Hodge S TCU 5'11 5/8 234 lbs. Ran a 4.49 forty. A tweener, TCU used him at safety and will. He blitzed a lot & had 8 sacks. Was a qb in high school. Big hitter, would be good on special teams. 6th or 7th round, maybe?

I really like him at the college level. At best, he's Sam Mills - a short LB. He played around the LOS in college, so I'm not sure about him in pass coverage. He's great against the run, so maybe they consider him as a WILL. He'd definitely be a project.

[Keith]

A bit of levity - Rich Eisen running the 40, stay tuned for the shadow cam thingy at the end:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80eea0dc

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by jppaul

I am starting to think about Malcolm Jenkins at safety after he dropped a 4.55, and he will probably be around after that performance.

But not at #15. We've got a bigger fish to fry with that pick than a FS.
And a CB is not worth a top 15 pick to us if he's not atleast a sub 4.5 guy as long as we continue to operate as much man-coverage with our corners
as we do now.