Texans Prefer Mahomes, Watson?

[popanot]

Mahomes in RD1 scares the crap out of me. I'd almost rather take OL and see who's there in RD2. Move up if necessary. I honestly don't see much difference between Mahomes and Kizer and I think Kizer or Davis will be there around our RD2 pick. I'd take Chad Kelly in RD 6 or 7.

[HPF Bob]

CBS Sports' six-reporter mocks have three taking Davis Webb in Round 1 then one each for Watson, Bolles and Lamp. Just sayin'.

[Warren]

FWIW, I heard an interview with Mahomes and in response to a question about his gunslinger reputation he basically said that's how you have to play to have a chance in those Big 12 shootouts and he understands the NFL is a different game.

The thing about Kelly is that he's had repeated incidents of knuckleheadedness, rather than a lapse or two in judgment. I get the idea of taking a flyer on him late based on talent, but you have to wonder if he hasn't shown by now that he is who he is and he's not going to turn it around.

I also heard an interview with former Eagles and Browns personnel guy Joe Banner who said that they've done studies of what traits in a QB most often lead to NFL success and the top three are accuracy, intelligence, and leadership. That's consistent with what Keith pointed out O'Brien has said was important and I know I've heard of at least one similar study by a team where they found that accuracy, intelligence, and toughness were most important.

[bikerack]

The buzz inside NRG today is that if Watson makes it past Arizona at 13, the Texans will start trying to move up to get him.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by bikerack

The buzz inside NRG today is that if Watson makes it past Arizona at 13, the Texans will start trying to move up to get him.

That's meaningless 'buzz'. Anything coming out to the media tells other teams exactly what they need to do to get/stay in front of the Texans. No way do the Texans leak that unless it's misinformation.

[bikerack]

Originally Posted by barrett

That's meaningless 'buzz'. Anything coming out to the media tells other teams exactly what they need to do to get/stay in front of the Texans. No way do the Texans leak that unless it's misinformation.

It wasn't released to the media. I have a friend who works for the team...during draft season, he is involved in breaking down game tape, setting up the draft room, etc. He won't tell me everything but he will give me bits and pieces from time to time.

My previous post was his understanding of what is going on inside the org from conversations he was involved with today. Take it or leave it...was just passing on what I had heard. No offense to this board, but if it was more popular, I wouldn't have shared it.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by bikerack

It wasn't released to the media. I have a friend who works for the team...during draft season, he is involved in breaking down game tape, setting up the draft room, etc. He won't tell me everything but he will give me bits and pieces from time to time.

My previous post was his understanding of what is going on inside the org from conversations he was involved with today. Take it or leave it...was just passing on what I had heard. No offense to this board, but if it was more popular, I wouldn't have shared it.

That kind of makes sense, especially if it was just talk around the office.

I am sure they have some spots in mind for when certain things become explorable.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by bikerack

It wasn't released to the media. I have a friend who works for the team...during draft season, he is involved in breaking down game tape, setting up the draft room, etc. He won't tell me everything but he will give me bits and pieces from time to time.

My previous post was his understanding of what is going on inside the org from conversations he was involved with today. Take it or leave it...was just passing on what I had heard. No offense to this board, but if it was more popular, I wouldn't have shared it.

Keep it coming, please, thanks.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by bikerack

It wasn't released to the media. I have a friend who works for the team...during draft season, he is involved in breaking down game tape, setting up the draft room, etc. He won't tell me everything but he will give me bits and pieces from time to time.

My previous post was his understanding of what is going on inside the org from conversations he was involved with today. Take it or leave it...was just passing on what I had heard. No offense to this board, but if it was more popular, I wouldn't have shared it.

Thank you for sharing.

And Bob, just because the team does not complete a trade up does not mean that they did not try to trade up. Remember it takes two teams and both teams have to agree on the price. So Bikerack's credibility should not be tied to a completed trade only. I for one appreciate having his new blood on this site.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by bikerack

No offense to this board, but if it was more popular, I wouldn't have shared it.

None taken. I do nothing to promote this board or site.

Thanks for sharing.

[Nconroe]

Watson about only QB coming out this year with a winning record , be great if we get him.

[chuck]

I too greatly prefer a smaller group of guys to a clutchfans style fkwitfest. But I wouldn't mind maybe doubling the group of active posters, if only because sometimes it feels like we're the most tenurd guys at the nursing home, you know, sitting around in our cardigans telling each other the same story for the twenty fifth time.

Buford wouldn't have a cardigan, of course. He'd probably have an oversized Broncos sweatshirt. And white Reeboks. With velcro. Hell, that's most likely how he's dressed right now.

Anyway, I welcome the new posters.

[Keith]

It doesn't help that the message board is a relic of the '90s. We're mostly middle aged dudes here, a sort of 12 angry men for the 21st century. Not a high growth demo.

To wit, this is how I envision some posts on our board...


#ItB #TellAfriend

[Keith]

Originally Posted by bikerack

The buzz inside NRG today is that if Watson makes it past Arizona at 13, the Texans will start trying to move up to get him.

Tweet this morning:

Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet
If Deshaun Watson is there in late 1, keep an eye on the #Texans. His visit was overwhelmingly positive for all. He loved it, team did, too.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857269155300560903

[painekiller]

So when did Ian become a member of our board?

[chuck]

I'm really amazed that BOB likes him. I don't doubt the information, it just surprises me because Watson and Mahomes, the other quarterback BOB is supposed to be in love with, could not be farther from what I understand BOB's ideal quarterback to be.

Maybe I misunderstand BOB then. If a quarterback is accurate and intelligent maybe he doesn't care if a guy is less like Tom Brady and more like Fran Tarkenton or Steve McNair.

But if so, then why is he hand-picking guys like Fitz, Hoyer, Mallett and Savage?

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

So when did Ian become a member of our board?

On a serious note, I strongly believe we need a somewhat mobile QB with this O-line, otherwise there's a good chance he'll be on the bench after a few games. And Watson is easily the most battle tested and accomplished QB of this draft. I also don't think BOB, as others have mentioned, is the QB guru some have made him out to be, or even the best game planner, but he's not bad either.

So because of that, I think him very likely wanting the QB with the most big game/championship experience is smart on his part. I thought our defense gave New England a good run for their money last year. And now with the possibility of Watson at the helm, and given his championship experience, I don't think the stage would be too big for him compared to all our other current options, FA or in the draft.

That being said, part of me thinks Mahhomes has more upside, but if BOB is in win now mode, Watson is the obvious smart selection here. Too many coaches have been fired over potential in QB's.