Speculative AJ thread

[Keith]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

How does it work differently during the season as opposed to the offseason?

Iirc, the unamortized bonus money accelerates immediately regardless of when the trade happens.

I agree with popanot here. A little off-topic, but the player we should have traded was Rosenfels, a QB discarded by a passer-deficient Dolphins team two years ago who suddenly gained some trade value (at least before about 2:45pm yesterday). Anyone wish they had a third rounder for him now?

If we're looking to trade anyone, you start with overpriced vets who might benefit from a new scheme or a change in scenery, guys like Tony Weaver and Morlon Greenwood ...though there is no one interested in picking up their salaries, Weaver especially. There are so few trades of household name players in the NFL for good reason.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by popanot

Do you really believe the Eagles are dumb enough to give up Sheppard AND 2 first rounders for AJ?

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

So, given Andre's recent media comments, would you be OK with shipping him to Philly for either (a) their two 2009 first round draft picks or (b) Lito Sheppard and one of their 2009 first round picks?

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[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Keith

Iirc, the unamortized bonus money accelerates immediately regardless of when the trade happens.

I agree with popanot here. A little off-topic, but the player we should have traded was Rosenfels, a QB discarded by a passer-deficient Dolphins team two years ago who suddenly gained some trade value (at least before about 2:45pm yesterday). Anyone wish they had a third rounder for him now?

If we're looking to trade anyone, you start with overpriced vets who might benefit from a new scheme or a change in scenery, guys like Tony Weaver and Morlon Greenwood ...though there is no one interested in picking up their salaries, Weaver especially. There are so few trades of household name players in the NFL for good reason.

I dunno, but really bet you wouldn't be saying that if not for the last 3 or 4 minutes of Sundays Texans-Colts game ? 20-20 as they say - perfect hindsight.
And sure we'd like to trade Weaver or Greenwood if there was only takers
on those fat contracts. Like the sub-prime mess (mortgage balances > home market values), compensation package > player market value.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I dunno, but really bet you wouldn't be saying that if not for the last 3 or 4 minutes of Sundays Texans-Colts game ? 20-20 as they say - perfect hindsight.

haha, so true, but I have, fairly or not, never been a huge fan of Sage's. I wrote a pretty ugly article after the team signed him (and Jameel Cook and Anthony Weaver) saying the 'new' Texans were blowing it in free agency just like the 'old' Texans.

I owned up awhile ago on Sage being more than worth the contract, so my hindsight is certainly clearer there, but I was/is all for trading Sage then and now (knowing of course now is really not likely anyway).

Sage is signed through 2009, so an offseason trade is still a possibility. Regardless, I'm in favor of using a draft pick (no earlier than a second) on a QB next April, and a suitable veteran backup is almost always available - heck, I still think the Texans had one before they let Quinn Gray go. Journeyman backup QBs are a dime a dozen imo, and to get something as meaningful as a third rounder for one just screams value to me.

And sorry for officially derailing this thread.

And nero - i think the length of this thread is more than enough evidence that this is an interesting topic, just one that might be a bit silly given the realities of the NFL's salary cap rules and general lack of blockbuster trades. Regardless, thanks for starting it... more interesting threads here is a good thing.