2011?

[nunusguy]

If you happened to see the "Iron Bowl"/Auburn-'Bama game yesterday, you saw a lot of talent but the guy that impressed me the most was Nick Fairley, Auburns DT. BTW, what a game and what a comeback by Auburn.
I haven't seen Auburn much at all this year, and apparently Fairly is kinda streaky, but he sure impressed yesterday and it seems like the Texans could really use him in the middle of their DLine ?

[HPF Bob]

I'm going to guess Fairly will be taken higher in the first round than the Texans will be. Watching Nevada's great comeback over Boise St. last night, there was a smallish DE by the name of Moat or Moak who was dominating Boise's OL last night. I don't think his size will hold up in the NFL but he looks like he could easily convert to a blitzing LB. If he's a senior, I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy in the second or third round.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I'm going to guess Fairly will be taken higher in the first round than the Texans will be. Watching Nevada's great comeback over Boise St. last night, there was a smallish DE by the name of Moat or Moak who was dominating Boise's OL last night. I don't think his size will hold up in the NFL but he looks like he could easily convert to a blitzing LB. If he's a senior, I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy in the second or third round.

Sounds like Von Miller, the smallish Aggie edge rusher, who's only 'bout 240 ?
I'd love it if the Texans went to the 3-4 next year, and I could see it happening if the old man tells Kubiak he can keep his job but he (McNair) is gonna tell him who his DC will be. These small, quick pass-rushers can often find a home in the 3-4, even in the NFL.

[Blitzwood]

I believe Dontay Moch is who HPF Bob is referring to...a smaller, faster type of DE which could translate well in the pro's- maybe a 2nd round talent but could move up if what I've read is true about him possessing 4.24 speed Right now though, I prefer Von Miller over Moch.

Nick Fairley is a beast, I've said it before on this board. I really like him and am starting to think we might have a chance to get him if he's there around the 13-16 picks. I agree that he's a little streaky, but he's already better than what we have in the middle right now.

I've been hearing that the left side on the Wisconsin O-line is one of the best in the last 20 years and I'm starting to agree considering how Wisconsin is dismantling their Big Ten opponents by 50+ point margins. We might want to pick up one or both of Gabe Carimi OT, and John Moffit OG, considering our own left sided woes.

I still think our secondary is priority #1 , but if the value isn't there in the first or second round, I have no qualms addressing the D and O-line first.

[NBT]

I would love for us to go 3-4D next year. But Smithiak better trade up to get Fairly because the nosetackle is the linchpin for a 3-4. I have been high on that guy all year. And of course Frank Bush would have to go. How about Wade Phillips for DC?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

I would love for us to go 3-4D next year. But Smithiak better trade up to get Fairly because the nosetackle is the linchpin for a 3-4. I have been high on that guy all year. And of course Frank Bush would have to go. How about Wade Phillips for DC?

I see Fairly as a DE in the 3-4, we have a couple of those right now. Currently, I do not see any NTs worth a 1st round pick in this draft. There are a couple guys who could be 2nd rounders and lower round types in this draft.

But IMO Fairly will be best served in a 4-3.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Texans keep dropping lower in the draft, they are currently picking #12. Not a bad effort DT, CB,OG and a PT.

12 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 1" 300
44 Shareece Wright CB USC 6' 0" 185
76 Orlando Franklin OG Miami 6' 7" 318
108 Mason Foster ILB Washington 6' 2" 244
140 Jeff Maehl WR Oregon 6' 1" 175
172 DeQuin Evans DE Kentucky 6' 2" 250
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

15 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
47 John Moffitt OC Wisconsin 6' 4" 313
79 Austin Pettis WR Boise State 6' 3" 200
111 Marcus Gilchrist S Clemson 5' 11" 190
143 Nate Irving ILB North Carolina State 6' 1" 235
175 Jonathan Nelson CB Oklahoma 5' 11" 180
206 Jah Reid OT Central Florida 6' 7" 315

we dropped 3 spots with the win Sunday, good news bad news.

Not a bad draft, Moffitt is a OG right now and would most likely be a OG with the current staff.

My choices:
15 traded to KC so they can take Locker for 23, 55
23 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190
47 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
55 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
79 Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
111 Andy Dalton QB TCU 6' 3" 215
143 Nate Irving ILB North Carolina State 6' 1" 235
175 Zach Roth OT TCU 6' 6" 316
206 Eddie Jones OLB/DE Texas 6' 3" 260

Now let the DBs play for reps on the field. Powe can be a force in the middle if we stay in a 4-3 or become the future (sign a FA for 2011) force at NT in a 3-4. Dalton is a project but has a gun and mobility. A couple of new LBs to battle for time. Roth is a project type OT.

[Nconroe]

I guess this is supposed to be a pretty deep DL draft, but not so deep in the secondary. Should be interesting toward end of March. I really hope there is no lockout in the spring.

[NBT]

I am convinced we need to replace both safeties if we can, in the draft next year (if there is going to be one). And follow that with a DT who can put an inside passrush on for us so the dadgum opposing QB doesn't have such a comfortable pocket to sit in all day, getting ready to throw.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I see Fairly as a DE in the 3-4, we have a couple of those right now. Currently, I do not see any NTs worth a 1st round pick in this draft. There are a couple guys who could be 2nd rounders and lower round types in this draft.

But IMO Fairly will be best served in a 4-3.

I'm sure you are right PK, however I think Fairly would be worth trading up for in the first, and that is definitely new for me to say that.

[Blitzwood]

Great games today, some names to keep an eye on:

Auburn- Nick Fairley* DT, Cam Newton*(obviously) QB, Josh Bynes MLB, Mike Berry OG, Ryan Pugh OC/OG, Mike Blanc DT, Zac Etheridge SS

South Carolina- Chris Culliver CB, Cliff Matthews DE, Ladi Ajiboye DT, Jarriel King OT, Josh Dickerson LB

Oregon St.-Stephen Paea DT, James Dockery CB, Alex Linnenkohl OC

Oregon- Casey Mathews MLB, Kenny Rowe DE, Brandon Bair DT, Remene Alston Jr. RB

Oklahoma- Jeremy Beal DE, Quinton Carter S, Brandon Caleb WR, DeMarco Murray RB, Jonathan Nelson CB

Connecticut- Scott Lutrus LB, Jordan Todman* RB, Greg Lloyd DE, Zach Hurd OG, Alex Polito DE/DT,

[nunusguy]

So where does Cam play in the NFL ? TE, WR, LB, or maybe even QB ?

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

So where does Cam play in the NFL ? TE, WR, LB, or maybe even QB ?

That will be discussed for the next 6 months from the experts that be, Mel Kiper and Todd McShay, good luck!!


Can Cam help This sorry ass team ?

How could he hurt it at this point? A real dilema if u asked me??

[painekiller]

12 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue 6' 4" 263
44 Michael Floyd* WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
76 Sean Bedford OC Georgia Tech 6' 1" 285
108 Marcus Gilchrist S Clemson 5' 11" 190
140 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255
172 Terrance Sweeney CB Kansas State 5' 8" 176
203 Dexter Larimore DT Ohio State 6' 2" 300


My cherry pick:

12 if 4/3 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
12 if 3/4 Jeremy Beal DE Oklahoma 6' 3" 253
44 Jimmy Smith CB/S Colorado 6' 2" 205
76 if 4/3 Ras-I Dowling CB/S Virginia 6' 2" 200
76 if 3/4 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
108 Andy Dalton QB TCU 6' 3" 215
140 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska
203 Jonas Mouton OLB Michigan 6' 2" 230

[Blitzwood]

Using draftsite's new updated mock, looks like Fairley is going top 5, as he is on walter's...we're probably gonna need a different DT for our wishlist.

My cherry pick:
Trade with New England our 12(1200) for their 32(590) and 33(580).

32. Von Miller, LDE, Texas A&M
33. Deunta Williams, FS, UNC
44. Bruce Carter, Will-OLB, UNC
76. Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
108. Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville
140. Phil Taylor, DT/NT, Baylor
172. Alex Henery, K, Nebraska
203. Chris Culliver, CB/FS/RS, South Carolina

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Using draftsite's new updated mock, looks like Fairley is going top 5, as he is on walter's...we're probably gonna need a different DT for our wishlist.

My cherry pick:
Trade with New England our 12(1200) for their 32(590) and 33(580).

32. Von Miller, LDE, Texas A&M
33. Deunta Williams, FS, UNC
44. Bruce Carter, Will-OLB, UNC
76. Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
108. Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville
140. Phil Taylor, DT/NT, Baylor
172. Alex Henery, K, Nebraska
203. Chris Culliver, CB/FS/RS, South Carolina

32 Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 6' 4" 254
33 Nate Solder OT Colorado 6' 9" 305
44 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
76 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
108 Pat Devlin QB Delaware 6' 4" 220
140 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska
203 Quan Sturdivant ILB UNC 6' 2" 230

[NBT]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

So where does Cam play in the NFL ? TE, WR, LB, or maybe even QB ?

Newton reminds me a little of VY maybe without the pouting. He will probably want to play the glamorous QB position, but he could probably play any of the skill positions.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

32 Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 6' 4" 254
33 Nate Solder OT Colorado 6' 9" 305
44 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
76 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
108 Pat Devlin QB Delaware 6' 4" 220
140 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska
203 Quan Sturdivant ILB UNC 6' 2" 230

32. Deunta Williams, FS, UNC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqssq...A8813&index=25

33. JJ Watt, DE/DT, Wisconsin (DT in our 4-3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNTwv...5B604E&index=1

44. Lawrence Wilson, LB, Conn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xS_wYk77ns

76. Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida

108. Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKERqz7G3UU

140. Phil Taylor, DT/NT, Baylor

172.(swapped with Cleveland's 165) Chris Carter, LDE, Fresno St.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMVtxfRt8ok

203. Alex Henery, K, Nebraska

[NBT]

Deunta Williams looks like a good one. One make a good addition to our woeful safety position.

[Nconroe]

For me, I'd get another DB or safety instead of a RB at 108, just for fun,
like Marcus Gilchrist

free safety against Georgia Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LltvYYNlgoA

and a kick returner
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxRTiG7g5s&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96IUaHXm4sY

from NFLscout.com
Name: Marcus Gilchrist
College: Clemson Number: 12
Height: 5-11 Weight: 190
Position: FS Pos2: CB/KR
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2011
40 Time: 4.49 40 Low: 4.38 40 High: 4.59
Projected Round: 3-4 Stock:
Rated number 4 out of 97 FS's 84 / 2591 TOTAL