The first 17 picks Saturday.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Your correct, I miss stated. I meant, if the Texans draft CB in the first, especially a stud CB, and Dunta makes it back to start this season, then the Reeves contract looks pretty bad.

It reminds me of the team signing a certain LDE to a huge contract and then drafting a LDE #1.

Also just to be clear? You think 20MM for a nickle is a good contract? I don't and I also think Bennett is a solid CB, and at worse can be a above average nickle, so no need for the Reeves deal IMO.

no, i don't think that is necessarily a good contract. i think the hope is that bennett ends up being the nickle and reeves the starter if dunta makes a full recovery. that said, with all the multiple receiver sets teams run a nickle back is probably on the field 60+% of the plays

[Arky]

My Magic 8-ball says the Texans won't be picking at 18....

[jppaul]

God it is good to be home btw. Am I the only one that was seriously impressed with Bennett this past year. I thought he was excellent, I never saw him get smoked like Faggins, or get embarrased, and he made some excellent ballhawking plays.

Honestly, I am very high on Bennett, I think he at worst a Number 2, and he plays like a # 1.

That is just me, but there is no way we light up a corner for our # 1. We have talent with Robinson for at least another two years, if you choose the franchise tags, potential and exhibited talent with Bennett, and 20 million tied up in Reeves.

Our corner is a # 4 pick. You are going to see some combination of a DE, LT or RB in the first two picks.

[papabear]

Everyone keeps talking about all the money we tied up in Reeves, but I was under the impression that even though his contract had a pretty big number that the deal was structured so that we could get rid of him after one year without major cap implications. Maybe Keith can clear that up....because I'm not sure where I got that and it could be completely wrong.

Of course, if he plays great then we will want to keep him so the point about already having money tied up is still valid....alhough Bennet will be cheap until his rookie contract runs out.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by papabear

Everyone keeps talking about all the money we tied up in Reeves, but I was under the impression that even though his contract had a pretty big number that the deal was structured so that we could get rid of him after one year without major cap implications. Maybe Keith can clear that up....because I'm not sure where I got that and it could be completely wrong.

Of course, if he plays great then we will want to keep him so the point about already having money tied up is still valid....alhough Bennet will be cheap until his rookie contract runs out.

5 years 20MM, 8 MM signing.

So unless he is a June 1st cut next year, cutting him will cost a bunch.

Reeves contract is why I am saying they should not draft a CB in the 1st.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by papabear

Everyone keeps talking about all the money we tied up in Reeves, but I was under the impression that even though his contract had a pretty big number that the deal was structured so that we could get rid of him after one year without major cap implications. Maybe Keith can clear that up....because I'm not sure where I got that and it could be completely wrong.

Reeves signed a 5-year contract that included a $4 million signing bonus ($4MM / 5 yr = $800k/yr prorate). He also got an addition $2 million as a roster bonus on this year's cap, which is the reason why cutting him after this year or next would be less painful... that extra $2MM won't need to be spread over future years.

2008: $1MM base, $800k prorate, $2MM roster = $3.8MM cap hit

So getting rid of Reeves after just one year would mean ($800k * 4 years) $3.2 million in dead money. If taken as a June 1, 2009 cut, that would mean $800k on the 2009 cap and $2.4 million on the 2010 cap.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

Reeves signed a 5-year contract that included a $4 million signing bonus ($4MM / 5 yr = $800k/yr prorate). He also got an addition $2 million as a roster bonus on this year's cap, which is the reason why cutting him after this year or next would be less painful... that extra $2MM won't need to be spread over future years.

2008: $1MM base, $800k prorate, $2MM roster = $3.8MM cap hit

So getting rid of Reeves after just one year would mean ($800k * 4 years) $3.2 million in dead money. If taken as a June 1, 2009 cut, that would mean $800k on the 2009 cap and $2.4 million on the 2010 cap.

Thanks for clearing this up, if he does not work out then letting him go is not as huge a deal as I had feared.

Besides, if Dunta comes back having him, Bennett and now Moulden as the top 3 CBs is a nice group.

Now lets see how our Lbs shake out.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Moulden as the top 3 CBs is a nice group.

I've seen this a lot. Since he's now on our team, we should learn how to spell his name: Antwaun Molden. There is a "u" in Antwaun but not in Molden.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Arky

My Magic 8-ball says the Texans won't be picking at 18....

Unless we get real lucky and have a worthy LT or CB on the Board at #18, I'm sure moving back would be GM Smiths fondest wish if only he could
find a trading partner to offer "reasonable value" for his first rounder.