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Originally Posted by barrett
We didn't snatch him away. He was Denver's if they wanted him. They chose not to offer him market value.
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Maybe? Rumors exist that Osweiler wasn't as interested in a return given his dislike of Kubiak's offense and how he felt he was treated last season. And the Broncos offered him ~$16M per yr reportedly, but yeah, they didn't want him.
I honestly think Elway botched this. He had a hard time giving that kind of money to a player with a half season's worth of starts. And he likely underestimated the market, which is somewhat understandable before seeing what guys like Cousins and Bradford are being paid this year. Elway is about to find out how hard life is being a QB-needy team like the Texans have been the past three seasons.
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Originally Posted by HPF Bob
Think of it this way: Texans traded Hoyer, Foster, Jones and Brooks for Osweiler, Miller, Allen and Bergstrom. Did we improve? Depends how you look at it.
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It's all about the QB. Pick Hoyer and any three other players and you've made the wrong choice, period. Hoyer wasn't a factor for 2016 anyway... the team would have invested at minimum their first round pick in a new QB. So the team really trades a rookie QB, an injured Foster, and newly minted Jones and Brooks for a 1st round pick, Osweiler, a young and healthy Miller, Allen and Bergstrom.
And keep in mind this is about 2016... meaning 2012 Arian Foster is now a 30-yr old running back entering training camp on a bad Achilles heel. Jones and Brooks are decent starters, but they're being paid more than Allen and Bergstrom for questionable, if any, improvement over the former. So I don't think this depends on how you look at it at all.