2012 Salary Cap

Keith · #1 06-10-2012, 10:07 PM

Cap room as of 6/10/2012: $5,051,274 per AdamJT13

http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2012/06...nfl-teams.html

barrett · #2 06-10-2012, 11:49 PM

ESPN's AFC south blog also just ran a piece regarding 2013 cap room. They listed that we should have $25 million in cap room next year. So even with resigning our own, it looks like our cap hell was only a year long.

painekiller · #3 06-11-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

ESPN's AFC south blog also just ran a piece regarding 2013 cap room. They listed that we should have $25 million in cap room next year. So even with resigning our own, it looks like our cap hell was only a year long.

$25 MM sounds like a lot, but is it really? Brown, Barwin, and Schaub have to be paid. Barwin will be getting a big raise if he repeats on last years success. Brown will likely be looking to be paid near the top of his position, and Schaub will likely also be looking for a raise.

I know there are others that are nearing the end of their contracts, the above guys are the ones that I can remember.

I for one am shocked they have not extended Brown.

painekiller · #4 06-11-2012, 05:03 PM

Found a list of 2013 FA, and these names are shown for the Texans: Schaub, Brown, Barwin, Butler, Casey, Caldwell, Cody, McCain, Quin, and Jamison.

Quin and McCain will be looking at raises also. We have the potential to loose a few key pieces to this team.

barrett · #5 06-11-2012, 05:38 PM

$25 million is a lot. It's more than most of the nfl. Schaub's cap number is huge in his last year. If he's back it will be on year one of a deal and it shouldn't be that much. Either way we will have the option to bring all of our relevant FAs back or let some walk and spend elsewhere. A big improvement from this summer, and like I said, the end of our mini cap hell.

Nconroe · #6 06-27-2012, 12:33 PM

As of June 22, looks like Texans have 4.05 mil in cap space in 2012
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...as-of-june-22/

I guess we have two third round draft picks yet to sign.

Perhaps some depth at WR, OL, or as injuries occur.

Wondering if they will try to resign some of our tops entering FA next year such as Barwin, Brown, Schaub, several others, seems possible now.

And just found this site which appears to have fairly accurate cap numbers for each current player on roster
http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/ByPlayer.aspx

well, when sum top 53 from askthecommish totals to about 93mil, so something not adding up somewhere.

WMH · #7 09-03-2012, 02:41 PM

Unless Barwins deal has no new money, don't expect to see his extension till after the season. With the $1.6MM we got from Dallas and Washington, that gives them $900k to play with during the season. Not much to work with, wouldn't be surprised if we see a restructure or three.

Every penny will count this year.

From Schefter:
Houston, Detroit and N.Y. Giants are all roughly $700,000 over NFL's salary cap, according to league source. Houston can take their cap exception from the Redskins and Cowboys and get under the cap, but the Giants and Lions will have to make a move or restructure contracts to get under cap. They have until Wednesday to do it.

cadams · #8 09-03-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH

Unless Barwins deal has no new money, don't expect to see his extension till after the season. With the $1.6MM we got from Dallas and Washington, that gives them $900k to play with during the season. Not much to work with, wouldn't be surprised if we see a restructure or three.

Every penny will count this year.

From Schefter:
Houston, Detroit and N.Y. Giants are all roughly $700,000 over NFL's salary cap, according to league source. Houston can take their cap exception from the Redskins and Cowboys and get under the cap, but the Giants and Lions will have to make a move or restructure contracts to get under cap. They have until Wednesday to do it.

The brown deal didn't include any new money before next season, so I am guessing they would do the barwin deal the same way. Also, from other sources I have heard that the texans have a couple million to play with. With all of that said, I am not thinking a new deal for barwin gets done before the season at this point anyway, though I would like to be wrong on that.

popanot · #9 09-04-2012, 01:17 PM

I still can't understand why they haven't re-upped Schaub yet. One would think it would benefit the Texans and give them a lot of cap space this year since it would be mostly be back loaded, and one would think it would benefit Schaub for securing his future with a team he knows and likes. Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't re-signing Schaub inevitable? I mean, what else do they have in the pipeline at QB for '13 and beyond? Anybody here REALLY think Yates is the answer for the long haul - especially with the Texans loaded for a few playoff runs in the years ahead?? Maybe he is the answer, but I still think re-signing Schaub is inevitable so why not just get it done?

Keith · #10 09-04-2012, 02:24 PM

It must be the Texans that are unwilling to negotiate. I have to imagine they look at Schaub and think he is a gamble to play full seasons into his mid-30s coming off a lisfranc injury, I dunno.

I agree though. I didn't see nearly enough progress from Yates this preseason to think he'd be ready to carry the team in 2013.

To think, the Texans could have extended Schaub and created enough room to keep either Winston or DeMeco...

Schaub's market value must be tough to get a clear estimate on though.

WMH · #11 09-04-2012, 02:49 PM

Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but it appears fairly close.
Shows contract status and cap hits.
Interesting stuff.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/

Top 53 + dead money ($16MM) is right at $121MM. Not too far off of Schefters reporting of $700K over.

chuck · #12 09-04-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith

Schaub's market value must be tough to get a clear estimate on though.

This is what I think. Injury concerns aside I believe the team is waiting for other deals to get done in order to have a better idea of what Schaub might be worth according to the market.

popanot · #13 09-05-2012, 07:51 AM

I think Schaub's value should be in the $8.5MM~$10MM range. I understand the injury concern, but unless it's someting that will put him out indefinitely for '13, I don't see them as having a choice but to re-sign him. There's just nothing in the pipeline and I don't think there's going to be a good, veteran QB available in trade or FA (Kevin Kolb, Kyle Orton, anyone? joking...).

I guess they could trade for or draft a young QB, but who? Cousins?? Even then would you feel comforatble giving the reins of a potentail SB contender to a young QB? Wish we could blend TJ's youth and arm strength with Schaub's knowledge, vision, touch and patience.

Keith · #14 09-05-2012, 02:10 PM

I did an article on this awhile ago, but this system, dating back to the Bronco days, seems to take a QB 3 years to really become effective in it. Not to say there can't be some earlier success, of course, but it's the 3rd year that showed a jump.

Next year will be T.J.'s 3rd year. I just have not seen enough improvement in his 2nd camp to make me think that this next leap is coming. And I had referenced QBs with better pedigree's than T.J. in that article (Cutler, Plummer, and Griese, not to mention Schaub...).

Keith · #15 11-01-2012, 11:32 PM

Per the NFLPA via PFT, cap space:

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Texans $2.7 million

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nflpa-version/