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Old 10-18-2020, 03:32 PM
HPF Bob HPF Bob is offline
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Texans going for 2....

Arg, ball is tipped, inc.

Texans 36, Titans 29

1:50 left in the game.
WHY???? An eight-point lead forces the Titans to score a TD *AND* convert the two-pointer. It can still happen but the Texans made it easy for them by allowing them to just take the tying extra point. Should have kicked the extra point and made Tennessee reach the end zone twice.

I'm not a big fan of "win probability" but, for the record, Texans were a 93% win probability after scoring the go-ahead TD with a minute left.
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Old 10-18-2020, 06:42 PM
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WHY???? An eight-point lead forces the Titans to score a TD *AND* convert the two-pointer. It can still happen but the Texans made it easy for them by allowing them to just take the tying extra point. Should have kicked the extra point and made Tennessee reach the end zone twice.

I'm not a big fan of "win probability" but, for the record, Texans were a 93% win probability after scoring the go-ahead TD with a minute left.
If they would have made it, win probability would have been 99.99%. Crennel said he wanted to put the game out of reach - he knows the defense sucks. They rolled the dice a bunch of times today unfortunately, that was the only fail. Can you imagine what the result would be had OB called the shots today?

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Early line has the Packers as 3 to 4 pt favorite next week. Seems like a no-brainer, no?

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2-4 would have been so much better than 1-5. There still would have been hope for the season. I still think 8-8 is a reasonable goal to shoot for....
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Old 10-18-2020, 07:09 PM
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If they would have made it, win probability would have been 99.99%. Crennel said he wanted to put the game out of reach - he knows the defense sucks. They rolled the dice a bunch of times today unfortunately, that was the only fail. Can you imagine what the result would be had OB called the shots today?

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Early line has the Packers as 3 to 4 pt favorite next week. Seems like a no-brainer, no?

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2-4 would have been so much better than 1-5. There still would have been hope for the season. I still think 8-8 is a reasonable goal to shoot for....
I think we should start tanking for the top pick of the 3rd round.
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Old 10-19-2020, 12:41 AM
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I don't always feel this way, but I agree wholeheartedly with Buford.

Yeah, yeah, I know what the numberz guys say, and I know that all the nerds say going for two is the right decision there. And maybe it is if you have a normal team that is at least average in most areas. We all know that the team's goal line offense is terrible, and we all know that their defense is terrible. So if you don't make the conversion attempt, and as far as I was concerned not making it was a foregone conclusion, then all they have to do to get to OT is what they've been doing all day long. If you kick, sure, of course they're going to score a TD. We've all been Texans fans for 20 years, we know the Titans are going to score. But you have to make OT less automatic.

This is literally what I was thinking as they were lining up to go for two.
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Old 10-19-2020, 01:13 AM
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First, "win probability" is about the dumbest made-up metric created.

Second, of course kicking the XP was the sound decision. It's what I wanted before, during, and after.

BUT

I will say two things... (a) Ka'imi Fairbairn already missed an XP earlier in THIS game. It's not automatic. And (b), Romeo is showing that he wants to take chances, going for 2, going on 4th down, etc. He's on the road against an undefeated division opponent, and he wants to step on their throats.

So, no, I didn't agree with the decision, but I admire his guts to make it.
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Old 10-19-2020, 09:18 AM
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First, "win probability" is about the dumbest made-up metric created.

Second, of course kicking the XP was the sound decision. It's what I wanted before, during, and after.

BUT

I will say two things... (a) Ka'imi Fairbairn already missed an XP earlier in THIS game. It's not automatic. And (b), Romeo is showing that he wants to take chances, going for 2, going on 4th down, etc. He's on the road against an undefeated division opponent, and he wants to step on their throats.

So, no, I didn't agree with the decision, but I admire his guts to make it.
Yep. He's a 100 year old replacement coach with no chance at the job long term, and he's coaching a lost season for a broken team. If any situation ever called out for not playing it safe, it's this one. So stupid yes. But still ok.

My real problem with Romeo isn't his 2 point tries but his pathetic defense. I'm glad these idiots decided Earl Thomas wasn't good enough to make the roster a few weeks back. Or Eric Reid. Instead we pay Cunningham a bundle to get caught in the wash while the Safeties look allergic to covering or tackling a back.
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:27 PM
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Didn't O'Bonehead sign Carebear to a 3-4 year extension before he was axed?
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Old 10-20-2020, 09:32 AM
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Yeah, and he’s one of the highest paid kickers in the league. For me, making extra points is table stakes. I don’t mean making most of them, I mean make all of them. It infuriates me as I look around the league and see idiots shanking extra points all over the place.
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Old 10-20-2020, 01:27 PM
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Didn't O'Bonehead sign Carebear to a 3-4 year extension before he was axed?
I honestly couldn't follow your nick names.

But since almost every remaining member of our team received a ridiculous extension, I'll answer yes without knowing who you're talking about.
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Old 10-21-2020, 12:10 AM
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It infuriates me as I look around the league and see idiots shanking extra points all over the place.
The NFL felt the extra point lacked drama when I felt it should be dropped altogether. Give the team seven points for the TD then subtract one if the team decides to try for two. Same end result except the team isn't left believing that their PK sucks and teams suffer a few less injuries (which the league talks out of both sides of their asses when they speak about altering the game to limit injuries).

I'm old enough to remember when teams didn't even having kicking specialists. They'd get a guy who actually played the other downs to punt or placekick. Lou "The Toe" Groza was an honest-to-God offensive tackle in his playing days who just happened to also be a fine placekicker, not some guy who couldn't cut it on the local soccer team.

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I honestly couldn't follow your nick names.
I wasn't about to call the guy "BOB", for rather obvious reasons. What moron thought that nickname up?

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