Ryans and Drob Skipping Workouts

[Bigtinylittle]

I really don't care for negotiations drama. I always press my ignore button and wait for the final outcome. Agents lie and posture about as much as politicans do, and they instruct their clients to do the same.

By the way, I ignore politicians too. I don't think I've listened to more than a couple of political speeches in the last twenty years. And I don't think I've missed a thing.

[nunusguy]

• Right now, I think there is a better chance of Dunta Robinson playing for a team other than the Texans by 2010. While I love DRob and want him back, if he is dead set on leaving the Texans as soon as he can then Rick Smith should be shopping him before and during the draft. My best guess is that the Texans could get a 2nd rounder for Robinson.
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootba...4/post_87.html
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So say Lance Zierlein in his "Z Report".
I always had doubts about D-Robs desire to stay here before his dust-up with
GM Smith, but now I'd also agree with LZ that the Texans ought to cut their losses and deal him for a pick if this is really what he (Robinson) has in mind.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

• My best guess is that the Texans could get a 2nd rounder for Robinson.

I'd also agree with LZ that the Texans ought to cut their losses and deal him for a pick if this is really what he (Robinson) has in mind.

Maybe we could draft Asher Allen or Keenan Lewis to develop and be done with the D-rama from D-Rob.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

• Right now, I think there is a better chance of Dunta Robinson playing for a team other than the Texans by 2010. While I love DRob and want him back, if he is dead set on leaving the Texans as soon as he can then Rick Smith should be shopping him before and during the draft. My best guess is that the Texans could get a 2nd rounder for Robinson.
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootba...4/post_87.html
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So say Lance Zierlein in his "Z Report".
I always had doubts about D-Robs desire to stay here before his dust-up with
GM Smith, but now I'd also agree with LZ that the Texans ought to cut their losses and deal him for a pick if this is really what he (Robinson) has in mind.

If the team takes care of its business with guys like Demeco and OD this season then Dunta won't go anywhere unless we let him... we can tag him again next year for a little less than $12 million. I know that's not ideal but it's an important tool to use, either as a bargaining chip, a means to work out a trade, or a last resort to keep a probowl caliber CB.

[nunusguy]

I blame it all on Smith. Other teams have players like D-Rob who are high-strung, egotistical, very emotional but at the same time fierce competitors who are team leaders and overachievers who set high standards for their teammates by their efforts and their desire and determination to win.
But you don't tell a guy like D-Rob one thing and then renege on your promise after you fail to negotiate the contract you wanted him to sign.
I'm thinking what D-Rob is making this year and was offered in terms of a long-term deal was more than fair compensation, but that's beside the point. Guy like D-Rob, he's high-principled and plays by his his own drummer and own standards and Smith didn't handle him right. The young GM blundered badly.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I blame it all on Smith. Other teams have players like D-Rob who are high-strung, egotistical, very emotional but at the same time fierce competitors who are team leaders and overachievers who set high standards for their teammates by their efforts and their desire and determination to win.
But you don't tell a guy like D-Rob one thing and then renege on your promise after you fail to negotiate the contract you wanted him to sign.
I'm thinking what D-Rob is making this year and was offered in terms of a long-term deal was more than fair compensation, but that's beside the point. Guy like D-Rob, he's high-principled and plays by his his own drummer and own standards and Smith didn't handle him right. The young GM blundered badly.

I agree that Smith probably could have handled it better, but he had every right to change his mind. He should have let them know when they turned down the offer that he was going to have to franchise him. D-Rob turned down the offer before Smith made his blunder by changing his tune, so the way Smith handled the Franchise tag had nothing to do with the offer being refused. Even aadmitting fault n Smith's part Dunta is probably over-reacting. He could have handled the situation better as well. Gone to the Texans and say I don't want to play with the tag so let's get something done.


On another point....did anyone see what the Bucs gave Winslow:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4047667


OD's price just went up...making getting all three of these guys signed long term even harder.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by papabear

On another point....did anyone see what the Bucs gave Winslow:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4047667


OD's price just went up...making getting all three of these guys signed long term even harder.

20 M guaranteed for a TE ! Wow ! While OD certainly isn't as talented as Winslow, he's a much steadier player, much more reliable, more stable player. And he's a real fit for this system. Wonder what kind of a deal he'll get ? I fully expect him and DeMeco to get signed before this regular season begins.
But D-Rob is a much different situation. They (the Texans) have got to figure out if they can sign D-Rob, figure it out soon, and if they conclude they can't we've got to get something for him while we still can.

[kravix]

I dont see how Smith botched this. I like DRob and all, but he is not the 4th best CB in the league, and yet he turned down money that would have equaled #4 highest paid CB.

On one hand he is on the cusp of becomming a pro bowler, and the other he hasnt been able to get over that hump. Take that and the injury he is comming off of and turning down that much guaranteed over that long seems either greedy or dumb. I think the contract they offered was more than they should have. What is the GM supposed to do? If they caved and payed every player what they wanted it would be impossible to even field a team.

Demeco was supposedly offered #3-#4 money for a LB and turned it down also. This was reported by McClain on the radio the other day, which is why i said supposedly.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

They (the Texans) have got to figure out if they can sign D-Rob, figure it out soon, and if they conclude they can't we've got to get something for him while we still can.

Maybe the Lions would give us #65 and Cliff Avril.