My Guys

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by mussop

HIs numbers might not be wat YOU want but his play on the feild speaks volumes for his ability to play in a ZB scheme. Ill go on record right now and say if he is selected by a team that runs it he will be an allpro. He is the best second level blocker I have ever seen in college. The only thing he is lacking right now is strength. That can be fixed. If he does get stronger IMO he has a chance on being one of the best OL to come out of this draft.

I don't think his versatility should be discounted. First, I think it says a lot about his athletic ablity that he successful played LT and C in the same season. Also, I think it says a lot about his understanding of the game and his technical ability. Especially, though, with teams only dressing 7 linemen most games, he offers a flexibility that is almost invaluable, IMO

[mussop]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I don't think his versatility should be discounted. First, I think it says a lot about his athletic ablity that he successful played LT and C in the same season. Also, I think it says a lot about his understanding of the game and his technical ability. Especially, though, with teams only dressing 7 linemen most games, he offers a flexibility that is almost invaluable, IMO

If he were available in the second round we will be making a big mistake not taking him. I stand by what I said earlier. He could end up one of the best OL to come out of this draft.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by mussop

If he were available in the second round we will be making a big mistake not taking him. I stand by what I said earlier. He could end up one of the best OL to come out of this draft.

Which is why I predict him to be gone by the 33rd pick.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Which is why I predict him to be gone by the 33rd pick.

No disagreement here. Which is why he has come off my board. I'm not looking to trade down to get him nor would I trade up to get him. It is more a matter of where we are on the draft slots and where I see him coming off the board.

[Nconroe]

Here is a dumb question, so, if a guy isn't on your list but he slips from where you thought he'd be, how do you know to draft him as excellent value. probably you have another list to protect against overlooking a great value.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Here is a dumb question, so, if a guy isn't on your list but he slips from where you thought he'd be, how do you know to draft him as excellent value. probably you have another list to protect against overlooking a great value.

Well, since I don't run the Texans, it doesn't really matter. This is my list to use on draft day so I can compare what I would have done compared to the Texans.

I don't have scouts all over the country and millions of dollars invested in research. Just a couple of web sites and my own peepers to determine who I'd want and when. After the draft, I can go back to this list and say "I told you so" when a guy I wanted outperforms the guy the Texans drafted.

I have no desire whatsoever of trying to rank over 300 players in terms of fit and need for the Texans. My point is to show that I can do more with less. There are plenty of websites that rank every college player. What I try to do is to simply distill all those choices into 50 or so players who would be a good addition to the Texans roster.

Undoubtedly, the Texans will most likely draft some players who are not My Guys. That's when I feel vindicated in complaining. Sometimes, they do pick one of my guys - Antwaun Molden, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I feel especially biased in hoping those players get on the field and make contributions.

So, if Unger just happens to be available at #45 and I draft William Moore instead, I think I can live with that. However, I seriously doubt that Unger lasts that long, so it's kind of a moot point.

[Roy P]

A slight adjustment. I'll probably still end up drafting Matthews at #15, but he does drop a couple of slots. I've also removed McBath from Texas Tech as I try to consolidate a bit. Today's date is 3/9/09, just so I will know and not update at least until 3/16. I probably shuffle this thing at least 3 times a day.

1 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest
2 DT B.J. Raji Boston College
3 DE Brian Orakpo Texas
4 CB Vontae Davis Illinois
5 DE Everette Brown Florida St.
6 LB Clay Matthews USC
7 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss
8 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St
9 RB Donald Brown Connecticut
10 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh
11 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri
12 S William Moore Missouri
13 OC Eric Wood Louisville
14 OC Alex Mack California
15 DE Paul Kruger Utah
16 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee
17 S Patrick Chung Oregon
18 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn
19 RB Andre Brown NC State
20 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond
21 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss
22 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty
23 RB Shonn Greene Iowa
24 S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
25 LB Gerald McGrath Southern Miss
26 WR Mike Thomas Arizona
27 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
28 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia
29 S Rashad Johnson Alabama
30 S David Bruton Notre Dame
31 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama
32 DT Alex Magee Purdue
33 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
34 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia
35 OG Gerald Cadogan Penn St
36 S Chris Clemons Clemson
37 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M
38 RB Glen Coffee Alabama
39 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
40 S C.J. Spillman Marshall
41 RB Ian Johnson Boise State
42 RB Kory Sheets Purdue
43 LB Cody Brown Connecticut
44 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama
45 DT Roy Miller Texas
46 DT Dorell Scott Clemson
47 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan
48 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State
49 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State
50 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri
51 WR Demetrius Byrd LSU
52 WR Kevin Ogletree Virginia
53 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St.
54 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon
55 LB Stephen Hodge TCU
56 LB Victor Butler Oregon St
57 DE Will Davis Illinois
58 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky
59 DT Terrence Knighton Temple
60 DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois
61 QB David Johnson Tulsa
62 RB Marlon Lucky Nebraska

Bold indicates where I'm guessing the rounds separate for those who care about that sort of thing.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I have no desire whatsoever of trying to rank over 300 players in terms of fit and need for the Texans.

What I try to do is to simply distill all those choices into 50 or so players who would be a good addition to the Texans roster.

It appears that I've found a kindred spirit. Please take a look at this guy's web site.

http://www.profootballdraftnetwork.com/

"The goal of ProFootballDraftNetwork.com is to cut through the clutter and identify in detail the draft’s impact players, top values (where a team really succeeds on draft day) and biggest risks."

"We will not be presenting to you 400 or 500 scouting reports. Instead, prospects are filtered out that are evaluated to be unlikely to make an NFL team or who will essentially have a cup of coffee in the league as a mediocre reserve. Our draft board will be whittled down as the season progresses and fans can view our final draft board and detailed scouting reports on approximately 90 prospects. The final draft board reveals the prospects rated to be future productive starters, strong contributors on special teams and those who should provide quality depth."

Denis Krusos
Editor

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by mussop

If he were available in the second round we will be making a big mistake not taking him. I stand by what I said earlier. He could end up one of the best OL to come out of this draft.

After some consideration, I've decided to put Unger back on the list. Still think it's a moot point, but I think I really want him more than LeSean McCoy. Afterall, there are other RBs who may be available later in the draft, but not many versatile OL. So, to keep things concise, Unger will replace McCoy on the My Guys draft board on its next update. I also think I'll be adding another USC Trojan.

[mussop]

These are my absolute favorite players in this draft.

BJ Raji DT
Clay Matthews OLB
Max Unger C
Donald Brown RB
Victor Harris CB
Darius Butler CB
Rashad Johnson S
T McKenzie OLB
Emanual Cook S
Jarron Gilbert DE
Gartrell Johnson RB
Pat White QB

If we come out of this draft with any 2 of these guys I will be happy happy happy.