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Old 03-03-2009, 10:03 PM
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I did not cherry pick, which is why I'm not too happy with this....

1. WR Jeremy Maclin
2. DE Lawrence Sidbury
3. RB Andre Brown
4. TE Shawn Nelson
4. OC A.Q. Shipley
5. S C.J. Spillman
6. DE Derek Walker
7. DT Darryl Richard
Okay, I went to Kentucky for the weekend and come back to find out that we've signed a DE and a backup QB. That changes my draft board a bit. Here's my new draft...

1. WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
2. S Patrick Chung Oregon
3. LB Gerald McGrath Southern Miss
4. DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond
4. RB Ian Johnson Boise State
5. OG Gerald Cadogan Penn St
6. RB Javarris Williams Tenn State
7. DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech

My 5th round pick is a new prospect to the draft board. Essentially, I needed a different position in the 5th round than was available on my board considering the S, LB, DE, and RB already selected. I also gave up on the idea of drafting a QB since we signed Orlovsky.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:22 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I like Matthews in the first. Hopefully we can trade down a bit, get an extra pick and still grab him. I wouldn't be upset with Maclin, but Matthews fills a much bigger need.

1. Clay Matthews OLB USC
2. Louis Delmas FS Western Michigan
3. Andre Brown RB NC State
4. Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond

I'd be thrilled with those top 4, especially if we could land another pick in a trade down. I considered Chung in the second, but it seems that the coaches like Barber at SS, so I went with Delmas instead.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:08 AM
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1. WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
2. S Patrick Chung Oregon
3. LB Gerald McGrath Southern Miss
4. DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond
4. RB Ian Johnson Boise State
5. OG Gerald Cadogan Penn St
6. RB Javarris Williams Tenn State
7. DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech

My 5th round pick is a new prospect to the draft board. Essentially, I needed a different position in the 5th round than was available on my board considering the S, LB, DE, and RB already selected. I also gave up on the idea of drafting a QB since we signed Orlovsky.
You know Roy I can see this being a group of guys without one starter for this year coming out of it. I know the long term goal is to get where we are only drafting for depth, but the reality is this team is not good enough for that yet. Walter is not a superstar but he is an above average #2 WR. So where does Maclin fit? #3 or 4? With this many needs on defense that is a luxury we cannot afford IMO.

Chung is SS and the team seems sold Barber and Eugene Wilson being the starters. Add in Harrison (who could be gone with little impact) and Nick Ferguson and the the depth at SS seems to be there. I like Chung, I can see him being able to play both safety positions, but does the team?

McGrath is another undersized LB that had a hard time staying on the field last season. He has an upside but as far as being a starter this season, not likely.

Sidbury is a specialist, not a starter.

Ian Johnson could be the man is Slaton gets hurt, so far the only starter with a few breaks.

I am thinking defense early and often. And that coming from a guy who wants them to draft Donald Brown.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:56 PM
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You know Roy I can see this being a group of guys without one starter for this year coming out of it. I know the long term goal is to get where we are only drafting for depth, but the reality is this team is not good enough for that yet..
Again, it comes down to BPA vs. filling a need. If the team is consistently trying to find players to fill their needs with inferior talent, then the team overall does not improve.

What would happen to this team if Andre Johnson got injured? We simply rely upon Andre Davis and Kevin Walter to step up their game, right? However, in my opinion, Jeremy Maclin has the talent to become the #1 WR if needed. Immediately, if all things are perfect, he plays the slot and improves field position by starting as the KR/PR. He has more talent than Walter so in theory would be able to put up better production while teams focused on Andre Johnson.

Chung could very well start at FS for this team. He has better coverage skills than C.C. Brown and he fits that "hybrid" S that the coaches have discussed. In terms of talent, if the coaches like Barber, they should love Chung.

McGrath is the sort of player the team hoped Adibi would be. He has better athleticism and would push for a starting position. He is also the kind of player who could make an impact on Special Teams covering kick returns.

Ian Johnson could easily split carries with Slaton. Neither is very big, so limiting their hits would pay dividends over the long haul. Last year after Slaton had 15 carries by the 3rd quarter, I kept my fingers crossed every time they handed him the ball late in games.

Sidbury may be a specialist like Elvis Dumervil. However, I'm not sure that this team couldn't use a guy on the edge to rush the QB. Remember when people scratched their heads trying to figure out how Mark Anderson went to the Bears as a 4th round pick and posted double digit sacks? As a non-starter, a player like that can still make an impact.

Cadogan vs. Brisel is a wash in my opinion. Eric Winston could have been even more effective last year if he weren't so preoccupied with tryint to cover up Brisel's mistakes. This team could definitely take a look at a RG not only to back up, but possibly start.

Javaris Williams could be the short yardage back that this team needs. Converting 3rd and one should be easier than we made it look last year. He'd also be a threat in the red zone to stick his nose in.
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