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Old 02-08-2009, 11:12 PM
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If he is such the athlete, then why are his numbers so pedestrian, that is why I am not high on him.

I do not want to give 1st round money to a guy with a questionable motor. With the measurable jpaul gave the man should have set a sack record and been a factor on every play he was in the game, but he is not. So why?
Gee, PK, I moved him up to #24 on my draft board.

Basically Ayers and Kruger are 1 year wonders too, so I'm giving MJ the benefit of the doubt. If Kollar and Bush can light a fire under his ass, maybe he can turn some of that potential into some good production.

I'm not banging the drum that we take the kid at #15, but if he's still around in the 2nd round, I won't pout too much if we draft him instead of Donald Brown, Harvin, Nicks, Pettigrew, or Greene.

I guess the question is, who are we considering for that 2nd round pick? Do we take Chung or Moore to play S? How about Unger or Mack to play C? Imagine the impossible happens and we drafted Raji at #15, who do you want in the 2nd? MJ wouldn't be a bad option, would he?
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:44 AM
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Gee, PK, I moved him up to #24 on my draft board.

Basically Ayers and Kruger are 1 year wonders too, so I'm giving MJ the benefit of the doubt. If Kollar and Bush can light a fire under his ass, maybe he can turn some of that potential into some good production.

I'm not banging the drum that we take the kid at #15, but if he's still around in the 2nd round, I won't pout too much if we draft him instead of Donald Brown, Harvin, Nicks, Pettigrew, or Greene.

I guess the question is, who are we considering for that 2nd round pick? Do we take Chung or Moore to play S? How about Unger or Mack to play C? Imagine the impossible happens and we drafted Raji at #15, who do you want in the 2nd? MJ wouldn't be a bad option, would he?
I concur and the reason I am banging the drum is becuase if we trade down to the 20's mid 20's I would not be upset if we picked him there. Additionally, this current staff has put a lot of stock behind measurables, i.e. Molden, Brown, etc., and I think this is an area they might continue the trend.

BTW, on the measurables, I found some video of Cushing running a 4.15 on the 20 yard shuttle, which if I remember correctly is pretty solid.

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Old 02-09-2009, 03:32 AM
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Gee, PK, I moved him up to #24 on my draft board.

Basically Ayers and Kruger are 1 year wonders too, so I'm giving MJ the benefit of the doubt. If Kollar and Bush can light a fire under his ass, maybe he can turn some of that potential into some good production.

I'm not banging the drum that we take the kid at #15, but if he's still around in the 2nd round, I won't pout too much if we draft him instead of Donald Brown, Harvin, Nicks, Pettigrew, or Greene.

I guess the question is, who are we considering for that 2nd round pick? Do we take Chung or Moore to play S? How about Unger or Mack to play C? Imagine the impossible happens and we drafted Raji at #15, who do you want in the 2nd? MJ wouldn't be a bad option, would he?
I am hoping for Donald Brown, but I doubt this team takes him, even though IMO he is the prototype for our ZBS. My 2nd choice is Chung, but again I doubt it, it seems the team thinks we are OK at safety. So that when a Kruger or an Ayers (one year wonder, more like a huge week in Mobile put him up the board) start to to creep into view. How about a LB, someone like Clay Matthews might be available around our pick. But LB is more likely a 3rd round target. So I am holding out for Brown. And yes I still pass on Johnson, let some one else light a million dollar (bust) fire.
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