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Old 09-25-2008, 12:46 PM
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nice report keith, but i think the biggest difference between schaub and cutler is that schaub learned the system (or at least a pretty similar one) in atlanta for 3 years and in college before that. he should be ruining the 3 year learning curve a little early...like sometime this year. even last year he showed flashes of a dominant qb but i'm really doubting after the carr debacle schaub would get his 8 mil extension for a season that so far has shown schaub flashing nothing but david carr-esque play.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:56 PM
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While Schaub clearly hasn't been great running the offense, I agree that this is something that can be learned and he may still need more time to do this. Let's remember that he has only started about 1 full season of games. Unfortunately, this is not my biggest concern with him. I'm really starting to worry about his toughness, both mentally and physically. He just doesn't carry himself the way you would like to see your QB carry himself. Every sack seems to leave him dazed and affects his play.
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:15 PM
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....You mean he seems to be gunshy?
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:27 PM
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Cutler = Strong arm, mobile, tough.

Shaub = Weak arm, not mobile, fragile.

The thing that Shaub had going for him last year (before he was injured) was pocket presence. I have not seen that at all this year.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:30 PM
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nice report keith, but i think the biggest difference between schaub and cutler is that schaub learned the system (or at least a pretty similar one) in atlanta for 3 years and in college before that. he should be ruining the 3 year learning curve a little early...like sometime this year. even last year he showed flashes of a dominant qb but i'm really doubting after the carr debacle schaub would get his 8 mil extension for a season that so far has shown schaub flashing nothing but david carr-esque play.
I agree. Schuab has extensive experience in the system, which was supposed to be one of the pluses of bringing him in. In addition to that, Cutler is one of the best QB in the league outside of the pocket - which is an essential function of this offense. Schaub, on the other hand, is relativel immobile and struggles outside of the pocket.

I think Schaub can suffice in this offense with a few tweaks here and there, but if he doesn't figure it out this season I don't think he ever will. That's not to say I'm against giving him another chance next season, but if he struggles the rest of this season I want to draft/sign someone to be waiting in the wings for the inevitable.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:22 AM
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I agree. Schuab has extensive experience in the system, which was supposed to be one of the pluses of bringing him in. In addition to that, Cutler is one of the best QB in the league outside of the pocket - which is an essential function of this offense. Schaub, on the other hand, is relativel immobile and struggles outside of the pocket.
well, i agree schaub is a bit flat-footed trying to escape from d-lineman in and around the pocket but whenever he runs out for a bootleg he's always had just enough speed to pull it off. hell, some of the best throws i've seen him make were even an option because of his feet but he's no cutler in this system, certainly.

another thing about cutler is he's had diabetes without treatment, and diabetes with treatment. i'm just saying...it probably affected his play a little bit in the past.
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I think Schaub can suffice in this offense with a few tweaks here and there, but if he doesn't figure it out this season I don't think he ever will. That's not to say I'm against giving him another chance next season, but if he struggles the rest of this season I want to draft/sign someone to be waiting in the wings for the inevitable.
agreed and agreed again.
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