How Tight is the QB Leash? Or is Schaub Just Too Conservative?

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Then 2007 was Matt's first year here and injury, still at no. 13

Name Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
Tom Brady NWE 16 117.2 398 578 68.9 4806 300.4 8.3 50 8 37 98 6.1 2.6 2 21 128 5 4
Ben Roethlisberger PIT 15 104.1 264 404 65.3 3154 210.3 7.8 32 11 35 204 13.6 5.8 2 47 347 9 3
David Garrard JAC 12 102.2 208 325 64.0 2509 209.1 7.7 18 3 49 185 15.4 3.8 1 21 99 3 2
Peyton Manning IND 16 98.0 337 515 65.4 4040 252.5 7.8 31 14 20 -5 -0.3 -0.3 3 21 124 5 1
Tony Romo DAL 16 97.4 335 520 64.4 4211 263.2 8.1 36 19 31 129 8.1 4.2 2 24 176 10 2
Brett Favre GNB 16 95.7 356 535 66.5 4155 259.7 7.8 28 15 29 12 0.8 0.4 0 15 93 9 3
Jeff Garcia TAM 13 94.6 209 327 63.9 2440 187.7 7.5 13 4 35 116 8.9 3.3 1 19 104 4 2
Matt Hasselbeck SEA 16 91.4 352 562 62.6 3966 247.9 7.1 28 12 39 89 5.6 2.3 0 33 204 9 5
Donovan McNabb PHI 14 89.9 291 473 61.5 3324 237.4 7.0 19 7 50 236 16.9 4.7 0 44 227 9 5
Kurt Warner ARI 14 89.8 281 451 62.3 3417 244.1 7.6 27 17 17 15 1.1 0.9 1 20 140 12 6
Drew Brees NOR 16 89.4 440 652 67.5 4423 276.4 6.8 28 18 23 52 3.3 2.3 1 16 109 9 4
Jay Cutler DEN 16 88.1 297 467 63.6 3497 218.6 7.5 20 14 44 205 12.8 4.7 1 27 153 11 4
Matt Schaub HOU 11 87.2 192 289 66.4 2241 203.7 7.8 9 9 17 52 4.7 3.1 0 16 126 7 3
Carson Palmer CIN 16 86.7 373 575 64.9 4131 258.2 7.2 26 20 24 10 0.6 0.4 0 17 119 5 1
Chad Pennington NYJ 9 86.1 179 260 68.8 1765 196.1 6.8 10 9 20 32 3.6 1.6 1 26 178 5 0
Sage Rosenfels HOU 9 84.8 154 240 64.2 1684 187.1 7.0 15 12 21 51 5.7 2.4 1 6 48 4 3
Derek Anderson CLE 16 82.5 298 527 56.5 3787 236.7 7.2 29 19 32 70 4.4 2.2 3 14 109 5 2
Philip Rivers SDG 16 82.4 277 460 60.2 3152 197.0 6.9 21 15 29 33 2.1 1.1 1 22 163 11 6
Jon Kitna DET 16 80.9 355 561 63.3 4068 254.3 7.3 18 20 25 63 3.9 2.5 0 51 320 16 6
Jason Campbell WAS 13 77.6 250 417 60.0 2700 207.7 6.5 12 11 36 185 14.2 5.1 1 21 110 13 8
Joey Harrington ATL 12 77.2 215 348 61.8 2215 184.6 6.4 7 8 14 33 2.8 2.4 0 32 192 0 0
Damon Huard KAN 11 76.8 206 332 62.0 2257 205.2 6.8 11 13 9 -1 -0.1 -0.1 0 36 234 5 3
Brian Griese CHI 7 75.6 161 262 61.5 1803 257.6 6.9 10 12 13 28 4.0 2.2 0 15 114 6 1
Kyle Boller BAL 12 75.2 168 275 61.1 1743 145.3 6.3 9 10 19 89 7.4 4.7 0 24 159 5 4
Eli Manning NYG 16 73.9 297 529 56.1 3336 208.5 6.3 23 20 29 69 4.3 2.4 1 27 217 13 7
Vince Young TEN 15 71.1 238 382 62.3 2546 169.7 6.7 9 17 93 395 26.3 4.2 3 25 157 9 3
Cleo Lemon MIA 9 71.0 173 309 56.0 1773 197.0 5.7 6 6 31 102 11.3 3.3 4 25 166 6 3

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Found some advanced QB stats, glossary of terms at http://www.advancednflstats.com/2010/08/glossary.html

Their stats at http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php
Here Schaub is 9 during 2012, where is your favorite QB
Rank Player Team G WPA EPA WPA/G EPA/P SR(%) Att Cmp Cmp% PassYds Sk SkYds Int %Deep AYPA
1 12-A.Rodgers GB 18 5.61 181.4 0.31 0.23 53.1 625 421 67.4 4834 55 326 9 20.2 6.0
2 2-M.Ryan ATL 18 5.34 205.7 0.30 0.26 55.4 692 476 68.8 5365 29 210 17 18.4 6.1
3 12-T.Brady NE 18 5.16 220.8 0.29 0.27 55.7 732 455 62.2 5491 28 191 10 19.9 6.4
4 12-A.Luck IND 17 4.41 114.9 0.26 0.14 47.5 681 367 53.9 4662 44 267 19 26.3 4.9
5 9-T.Romo DAL 16 4.37 105.0 0.27 0.14 52.0 648 425 65.6 4903 36 263 19 19.3 5.5
6 5-J.Flacco BLT 20 4.28 112.1 0.21 0.15 46.7 657 390 59.4 4957 41 265 10 26.5 6.1
7 18-P.Manning DEN 17 4.04 178.0 0.24 0.26 53.6 626 428 68.4 4957 24 154 13 19.0 6.5
8 3-R.Wilson SEA 18 3.91 142.8 0.22 0.22 52.0 455 291 64.0 3690 40 251 11 24.0 5.9
9 8-M.Schaub HST 18 3.52 116.0 0.20 0.17 50.4 633 413 65.2 4613 28 225 14 17.9 5.7
10 9-D.Brees NO 16 3.36 157.8 0.21 0.22 51.4 670 422 63.0 5177 26 190 19 17.0 5.9
11 1-C.Newton CAR 16 3.14 141.6 0.20 0.21 47.8 485 280 57.7 3869 36 244 12 23.3 5.9
12 10-R.Griffin WAS 16 3.01 136.4 0.19 0.23 50.6 413 269 65.1 3295 34 246 6 18.2 6.2
13 7-C.Kaepernick SF 16 2.83 82.2 0.18 0.19 48.9 298 185 62.1 2607 21 144 5 29.9 7.0
14 10-E.Manning NYG 16 2.44 87.3 0.15 0.14 49.3 536 321 59.9 3948 19 136 15 21.5 5.7
15 7-B.Roethlisberger PIT 13 2.25 83.5 0.17 0.16 50.4 448 283 63.2 3252 30 182 8 19.0 5.7
16 8-S.Bradford SL 16 1.89 34.9 0.12 0.05 45.1 551 328 59.5 3702 34 233 13 17.2 4.9
17 9-M.Stafford DET 16 1.86 100.8 0.12 0.12 49.0 727 435 59.8 4965 29 212 17 22.8 5.3
18 7-C.Ponder MIN 16 1.60 35.7 0.10 0.06 44.3 483 300 62.1 2935 31 177 12 17.0 4.3
19 5-J.Freeman TB 16 1.56 56.5 0.10 0.09 43.3 558 306 54.8 4065 25 157 17 25.6 5.4
20 17-R.Tannehill MIA 16 1.36 3.4 0.09 0.01 46.0 484 282 58.3 3294 36 228 13 19.2 4.8
21 14-R.Fitzpatrick BUF 16 1.29 30.6 0.08 0.05 45.3 505 306 60.6 3400 29 161 16 17.6 4.7
22 11-A.Smith SF 10 0.89 34.4 0.09 0.12 51.1 218 153 70.2 1737 24 137 5 13.8 5.7
23 3-C.Palmer OAK 15 0.85 52.0 0.06 0.08 46.4 565 345 61.1 4018 26 199 14 19.8 5.4
24 11-B.Gabbert JAX 10 0.61 -19.9 0.06 -0.06 44.1 278 162 58.3 1662 22 158 6 18.0 4.1
25 8-M.Hasselbeck TEN 8 0.46 -2.8 0.06 -0.01 45.7 221 138 62.4 1361 14 103 5 18.1 4.4
26 10-J.Locker TEN 11 0.33 4.2 0.03 0.01 41.8 314 177 56.4 2176 25 151 11 22.0 4.5
27 6-J.Cutler CHI 15 0.21 24.9 0.01 0.05 43.5 434 255 58.8 3033 39 264 14 28.6 4.5
28 9-N.Foles PHI 7 0.19 -11.3 0.03 -0.04 41.8 265 161 60.8 1701 20 131 5 20.0 4.7
29 4-K.Kolb ARZ 6 -0.13 -5.0 -0.02 -0.02 43.8 183 109 59.6 1169 26 159 3 15.3 4.2
30 14-A.Dalton CIN 17 -0.13 10.7 -0.01 0.02 45.5 559 343 61.4 3796 48 238 17 20.9 4.6
31 7-M.Vick PHI 10 -0.19 14.7 -0.02 0.03 46.1 351 204 58.1 2362 28 165 10 21.1 4.6
32 3-B.Weeden CLV 15 -0.47 15.3 -0.03 0.03 43.4 517 297 57.4 3385 28 186 17 17.0 4.5
33 17-P.Rivers SD 16 -0.51 28.5 -0.03 0.05 46.0 527 338 64.1 3607 49 311 15 20.1 4.6
34 7-M.Cassel KC 9 -1.12 -25.5 -0.12 -0.08 45.3 277 161 58.1 1796 19 101 12 20.2 3.9
35 7-C.Henne JAX 10 -1.21 -31.6 -0.12 -0.08 41.9 307 165 53.7 2090 29 175 11 20.8 4.2
36 19-J.Skelton ARZ 7 -1.24 -45.6 -0.18 -0.20 38.9 201 109 54.2 1132 15 98 9 15.4 2.9
37 9-B.Quinn KC 10 -1.52 -60.4 -0.15 -0.24 37.1 198 113 57.1 1141 20 123 8 20.7 3.0
38 14-R.Lindley ARZ 6 -1.85 -66.1 -0.31 -0.34 35.2 171 89 52.0 752 12 91 7 18.1 1.9
39 6-M.Sanchez NYJ 15 -2.63 -62.5 -0.18 -0.12 43.1 453 246 54.3 2883 34 209 18 20.8 3.8

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Then ESPN has their QBR rating where Schaub comes in at 13
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

2012 Regular Season NFL LeadersRK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
1 Peyton Manning, DEN 116.6 1.4 -14.1 12.9 116.8 691 144.4 87.0 84.1
2 Tom Brady, NE 114.3 3.1 -16.6 8.3 109.2 739 129.0 67.6 77.1
3 Colin Kaepernick, SF 45.5 15.2 -11.8 -2.5 46.4 316 54.8 28.5 76.8
4 Matt Ryan, ATL 122.2 12.1 -25.4 5.5 114.4 717 117.6 58.1 74.5
5 Aaron Rodgers, GB 108.9 19.1 -39.0 13.8 102.9 726 113.4 53.2 72.5
6 Robert Griffin III, WSH 80.2 12.7 -20.3 7.4 80.1 589 89.6 40.8 71.4
7 Alex Smith, SF 41.7 3.7 -13.4 2.5 34.5 295 43.5 19.0 70.1
8 Russell Wilson, SEA 86.4 23.1 -27.4 6.2 88.2 588 85.6 36.8 69.6
9 Drew Brees, NO 108.0 -0.1 -20.0 -1.4 86.4 761 106.1 42.9 67.9
10 Eli Manning, NYG 74.0 1.2 -12.2 8.4 71.5 628 86.6 34.5 67.4
RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
11 Andrew Luck, IND 73.4 21.1 -24.4 19.3 89.5 778 100.9 36.3 65.0
12 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 88.8 5.3 -29.0 4.3 69.4 537 65.8 21.2 62.8
13 Tony Romo, DAL 120.4 1.2 -31.1 1.1 91.5 779 95.3 30.7 62.7
14 Matt Schaub, HOU 78.6 -1.2 -21.3 5.0 61.1 637 77.6 24.7 62.6
15 Matthew Stafford, DET 90.5 5.2 -21.1 7.8 82.4 846 93.3 23.1 58.9
16 Cam Newton, CAR 51.0 27.1 -26.7 4.4 55.8 698 66.9 9.0 54.2
17 Christian Ponder, MIN 44.2 7.9 -21.2 8.0 38.9 611 57.7 7.0 53.8
18 Josh Freeman, TB 65.1 2.8 -21.4 3.6 50.2 681 63.0 6.5 53.1
19 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 55.0 4.5 -24.2 10.8 46.2 624 56.1 4.3 52.3
20 Jay Cutler, CHI 39.9 16.4 -23.3 4.0 37.0 559 49.6 3.2 51.9

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now NBC lets you choose some interesting QB statistics,
http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...e=NFL&rank=098

such as first down% on third down by passing where Schaub comes in at 15.

%First Downs, Pass on 3rd Down
Rank Player Team Stats
1 Matt Ryan Atl 49.4 ( 79/160 )
2 Peyton Manning Den 49.0 ( 74/151 )
3 Tom Brady NE 48.0 ( 72/150 )
4 Ben Roethlisberger Pit 47.6 ( 59/124 )
5 Matt Hasselbeck Ten 47.1 ( 32/68 )
6 Aaron Rodgers GB 45.8 ( 66/144 )
7 Matthew Stafford Det 45.5 ( 91/200 )
8 Tony Romo Dal 45.3 ( 73/161 )
9 Michael Vick Phi 45.3 ( 43/95 )
10 Drew Brees NO 44.5 ( 77/173 )
11 Russell Wilson Sea 43.2 ( 54/125 )
12 Andrew Luck Ind 42.9 ( 73/170 )
13 Ryan Fitzpatrick Buf 42.9 ( 60/140 )
14 Philip Rivers SD 42.6 ( 66/155 )
15 Matt Schaub Hou 40.0 ( 56/140 )
16 Christian Ponder Min 39.7 ( 60/151 )
17 Alex Smith SF 39.3 ( 22/56 )
18 Matt Cassel KC 39.0 ( 30/77 )
19 Cam Newton Car 38.2 ( 47/123 )
20 Eli Manning NYG 38.0 ( 52/137 )

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or how about % completions inside opponents 10 yard line, at no. 10
http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...e=NFL&rank=099

%Completions, Inside Opp 20
Rank Player Team Stats
1 Philip Rivers SD 65.6 ( 40/61 )
2 Matt Ryan Atl 63.2 ( 55/87 )
3 Drew Brees NO 62.5 ( 60/96 )
4 Aaron Rodgers GB 62.1 ( 41/66 )
5 Robert Griffin III Was 61.5 ( 24/39 )
6 Tom Brady NE 60.5 ( 49/81 )
7 Christian Ponder Min 59.4 ( 41/69 )
8 Russell Wilson Sea 57.6 ( 34/59 )
9 Peyton Manning Den 57.3 ( 47/82 )
10 Matt Schaub Hou 57.1 ( 28/49 )
11 Ryan Fitzpatrick Buf 56.6 ( 30/53 )
12 Josh Freeman TB 55.9 ( 38/68 )
13 Ben Roethlisberger Pit 55.2 ( 37/67 )
14 Sam Bradford StL 55.0 ( 33/60 )
15 Andy Dalton Cin 54.3 ( 38/70 )
16 Jay Cutler Chi 53.2 ( 25/47 )
17 Carson Palmer Oak 52.4 ( 33/63 )
18 Blaine Gabbert Jac 51.6 ( 16/31 )
19 Andrew Luck Ind 50.7 ( 35/69 )
20 Colin Kaepernick SF 48.3 ( 14/29 )

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so this is more on leadership skills - need 5 of these 8 to be in top 15 they say . guess Schaub has 6, mobility being the obvious one.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...american-.html

Skills a Quarterback Needs to Succeed in American Football

By Howie Long and John Czarnecki from Football For Dummies, 4th US Edition

When scouts or coaches examine a quarterback’s potential to play in the NFL, they run down a checklist of physical, mental, and personality traits that affect a quarterback’s success on the field. The following list gives the main criteria necessary to excel. If a quarterback has five of these seven traits, he undoubtedly ranks among the top 15 players at his position:

Arm strength: Velocity is important when throwing a football

Competitiveness: A player’s competitiveness is made up of many subjective and intangible qualities. A quarterback should have the desire to be the team’s offensive leader and, ideally, overall leader. No one should work harder in practice than he does.

Intelligence: Many NFL teams have a 3-inch-thick playbook

Mobility: A quarterback’s mobility is as important as his intelligence and his arm.

Release: If a quarterback doesn’t have exceptional arm strength, he’d better have a quick release.

Height: A quarterback wants to be tall enough to see over his linemen — whose average height in the NFL is 6’5” to 6’7” —

Weight: A quarterback can expect a lot of physical contact, especially when attempting to pass.

Vision: A quarterback doesn’t necessarily need keen peripheral vision, but it doesn’t hurt. A quarterback must quickly scan the field when he comes to the line of scrimmage prior to the snap of the ball.

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And BleacherReport had their article on what Scouts, Coaches look for in a QB

Most top 10 QBs have most of these traits, seems Schaub is ok with most of these.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...back-prospects

By Matt Miller(NFL Draft Lead Writer) on May 8, 2013

Once you have the film, what do you do with it? Here are the eight criteria I find most important when evaluating quarterbacks for the NFL.

1. Accuracy

Despite what some may say, accuracy is one of the few traits that I believe you cannot coach into a quarterback. You either have it or you don't, and it is the single-most important aspect to being able to play the position at a high level.

2. Vision

Seeing the field is the second-most important trait when scouting quarterbacks. If you can see the field and recognize your open receivers—and then use Trait No. 1 to get the ball there—you’ll live as an NFL quarterback.

3. Leadership and Poise

In preparing for this piece, I spoke to several NFL scouts. One quote stuck with me throughout my writing—"I want a guy that can carry everyone's hopes." That's a classic statement to wrap up what leadership should be about.

4. Arm Strength (Velocity)

Arm strength is impressive, but how important is being able to throw 70 yards in the air? Not very.

When looking at arm strength, I’m more impressed with velocity than distance.


5. Pocket Presence and Escapability

NFL defensive coordinators spend hours upon hours scheming ways to try and get to the quarterback. That can all be thrown away by a quarterback with good pocket presence.

Pocket presence isn’t mobility; it’s the ability to see and feel pressure.


6. Anticipation

Some will call this “throwing your receivers open,” but essentially this boils down to being able to know when and/or where the receiver will be open and getting the ball there on time.

7. Mechanics

Mechanics can be taught—but ideally we find quarterbacks who are NFL ready coming out of college.

A proper throwing motion can be debated, but the basics are set.

Throwing motion: The quarterback should throw with an over-the-top motion where the ball comes over the shoulder and is released here. The ball should not follow a trajectory under the shoulder—also known as "side-arm" delivery.

Follow-through: The quarterback should step through his throw, swinging his back foot through the throw with his front foot pointed toward the target. The front leg should work as a foundation for the throw.

Outside of these two notes, mechanics can be debated. Some quarterbacks excel at changing their release point and motion

8. Size

When looking at NFL quarterback prospects there used to be this baseline of size that each player had to meet—6’2” and 220 pounds. That was the bottom line for being a successful NFL quarterback, and there were few exceptions.