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[painekiller]

Originally Posted by kRocket

Does it take special skills to be a NT rather than a DT? I wonder if Kubiak/Bush would entertain that notion? I guess that would change our draft strategy somewhat, maybe an additional LB.

If all it took was bulk then there would be more of them. Wilfork the guy most people point at as a successful draft pick, did not start his rookie year, so it took him a season to learn the pro game. A NT has to learn to feel the double team and hold his ground. They need to stay low, and use their hands extremely well.

Quickness alone will not work, bulk alone does not work. Quickness with low end power seems to be the trick.

[kRocket]

Yeah, PK I remember Curly Culp with the Oilers in the days when they ran a 3-4. Forgot just how big he was sizewise but he was a college wrestler IIRC. That gave him an edge in the use of hands and leverage. Made a great NT.

Maybe Lamar Houston would make an acceptable NT. He started Texas as a RB so he has quickness and should have leg drive, but he isn't big by today's standards.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by kRocket

Yeah, PK I remember Curly Culp with the Oilers in the days when they ran a 3-4. Forgot just how big he was sizewise but he was a college wrestler IIRC. That gave him an edge in the use of hands and leverage. Made a great NT.

Maybe Lamar Houston would make an acceptable NT. He started Texas as a RB so he has quickness and should have leg drive, but he isn't big by today's standards.

Curley Culp
Position: DT-NT-G
Height: 6-2 Weight: 265 lbs.

But the OL back then only weighed 240's, so when Earl was 245 that was huge for a RB.

But your correct in the fact that wrestlers and martial arts guys make the best front 7 guys.

[Roy P]

It's not easy finding a NT like Vince Wilfork or Haloti Ngata. The combo of size, speed, power, leverage, and strength is highly coveted. There isn't one in every draft. I believe the closest physical specimen in this draft is Linval Joseph. He isn't going to be drafted in the first round like the two prototypes because of several reasons. However, there are some strengths and similarities.

Pos---Name---Height-Weight---40------Reps-----Vert------20----10----Jump-----3-Cone--Shuttle
DT-Linval Joseph-6'6"-328lbs--5.09------39------30------2.91---1.75----8.25------8.12------4.71
wilfork/ngata----6'3"- 340lbs-5.08/5.13-36/37-26.5/31.5- /2.96- /1.73-8.42/9.2---7.6/7.97---4.5/4.69

Now, I won't tell you that Linval is the next great NT just because of his measurables. I will say, that for a 4th round pick, I'm ready to take the risk that he develops into a solid starter who can stuff the run.

[idymoe]

4/2/10

Draftek has Joseph gone before the Texans' pick.

1. M. Pouncey G/C

2. B. Ghee CB

3. T. Gerhart RB

4. Torrell Troup DT

5. Myron Lewis FS

6. Marcus Easley WR

6. David Pender CB

7. Kion Wilson LB


I would probably like Geno Atkins or Lamar Houston in the 3rd, but would be left with a risky pick for RB after the 3rd.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by idymoe

4/2/10

Draftek has Joseph gone before the Texans' pick.

1. M. Pouncey G/C

2. B. Ghee CB

3. T. Gerhart RB

4. Torrell Troup DT

5. Myron Lewis FS

6. Marcus Easley WR

6. David Pender CB

7. Kion Wilson LB


I would probably like Geno Atkins or Lamar Houston in the 3rd, but would be left with a risky pick for RB after the 3rd.

I have the same problem, which is why I don't have a problem drafting a RB in the 2nd round. I'm starting to be thankful that we signed an OL in FA this offseason. Trying to get all the 'presents' I want on Christmas, I mean Draft day is going to be hard with the number of picks that we have in the first 4 rounds.

1. FS Earl Thomas

2. CB Brandon Ghee, OG Jon Asamoah, RB Ben Tate

3. RB Ben Tate, DT Geno Atkins, DT Lamarr Houston, RB Toby Gerhart

4. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, CB Alterraun Verner, CB AJ Jefferson, RB James Starks

5. CB AJ Jefferson, LB Pat Angerer, CB Kevin Thomas, OC Eric Olsen

6. CB Kevin Thomas, LB Simoni Lawrence, OC Joe Hawley

6. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim [Still on the board], LB Simoni Lawrence, OC Joe Hawley

7. LB Simoni Lawrence, CB Crezdon Butler, DT Jay Ross

[Roy P]

I got a run-stuffer in the 4th round. A little upset I couldn't get Geno Atkins, but that's why I keep wanting to trade down. Then again, I was able to get Earl Thomas without trading up, so that's good. I still would like to trade down in the 2nd round, though.

1. S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
2. OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
3. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
4. DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
5. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
6. CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
6. LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson

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