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I can easily agree with that statement. I just can't imagine this team having much luck without AJ and it would be nice to have someone waiting in line and I don't think we really do right now.
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We wouldn't have much luck without Andre. The same could be said about most teams losing their best player. If at some point, Dre becomes injured or is a Free Agent that we can no longer keep, then we will probably draft a WR in the first round. Right now, we just have to keep our fingers crossed that Dre stays healthy and happy. The team wouldn't have much luck if Ryans or Schaub went down either, but we can't really draft their counterparts either.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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-------------------------------Explosion-----Quickness----Athleticism
1 LB Sean Weatherspoon 84.25 12.97 6.50 2 RB Ben Tate 76.83 12.52 6.14 3 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 76.08 12.7 5.99 4 WR Scott Long 71.75 12.03 5.96 5 LB Jamar Chaney 75.33 12.73 5.92 6 CFS *Eric Berry 72.83 12.57 5.79 7 RB Montario Hardesty 72.33 12.52 5.78 8 DT Ndamukong Suh 76.25 13.34 5.72 9 DT Geno Atkins 76.75 13.44 5.71 10 RB Toby Gerhart 69.83 12.74 5.48 11 RB Lonyae Miller 72.5 13.29 5.46 12 LB Pat Angerer 70.16 12.96 5.41 13 DT Mike Neal 73.42 13.66 5.37 14 LB Simoni Lawrence 71.25 13.28 5.37 15 DT Linval Joseph 77.25 14.58 5.30 16 CSS Myron Rolle 67.25 12.7 5.30 17 CFS Brian Jackson 65.5 12.54 5.22 18 DT Lamarr Houston 73 14 5.21 19 CB Crezdon Butler 66.58 12.85 5.18 20 CB Kevin Thomas 64 12.52 5.11 21 DE Lindsey Witten 69.12 13.53 5.11 22 OL Eric Olsen 72.25 14.19 5.09 23 CB Devin McCourty 62.5 12.3 5.08 24 RB Ryan Matthews 65.08 12.82 5.08 25 CB Brandon Ghee 62.58 12.34 5.07 26 DT Torrell Troup 71.12 14.09 5.05 27 CB A.J. Jefferson 61.5 12.28 5.01 28 DT Tyson Alualu 66.2 13.25 5.00 29 OL Joe Hawley 69.75 14.01 4.98 30 CB *Joe Haden 63.42 12.81 4.95 31 LB Kavell Conner 66.66 13.51 4.93 32 OL Shelley Smith 69.25 14.12 4.90 33 OL Shawn Lauvao 67.92 13.87 4.90 34 DT Cam Thomas 68.5 14.19 4.83 35 RB James Starks 60.92 12.67 4.81 36 CB Kareem Jackson 60.32 12.59 4.79 37 OL Trent Williams 66.92 13.97 4.79 38 CFS Major Wright 61.42 12.84 4.78 39 LB Kam Chancellor 63.75 13.37 4.77 40 OL Rodger Saffold 65.92 13.89 4.75 41 CB David Pender 61.3 12.92 4.74 42 DT *Gerald McCoy 63 13.48 4.67 43 DT Dan Williams 67 14.5 4.62 44 DE George Selvie 63.58 13.78 4.61 45 DE Carlos Dunlap 61.75 13.43 4.60 46 CB Trevard Lindley 57.25 12.63 4.53 47 DT Earl Mitchell 62.42 13.79 4.53 48 LB AJ Edds 58.75 13.07 4.50 Explosion = Reps + Vert + Broad Jump Quickness = 10yard + Shuttle + Cone Athleticism = Explosion/Quickness
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. Last edited by Roy P; 04-03-2010 at 10:45 AM. |
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How do you pass him up at 20? A super group of LBs, Cushing Ryans Weatherspoon, makes so much sense to me....
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1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas 3 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma 4 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri 5 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee 6 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St 7 S Taylor Mays 6'3" 230 4.43 USC 8 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers 9 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St 10 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St. 11 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois 12 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest 13 CB Kareem Jackson 5'11" 196 4.46 Alabama 14 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn 15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford 16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee 17 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia 18 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California 19 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas 20 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech 21 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi 22 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana 23 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida 24 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia 25 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech 26 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue 27 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa) 28 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas 29 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor 30 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina 31 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida 32 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan 33 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington 34 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St 35 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA 36 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo 37 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut 38 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC 39 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa 40 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St 41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa 42 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU 43 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St. 44 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt 45 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame 46 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky 47 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham 48 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St. 49 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota 50 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona 51 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.63 Oklahoma 52 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St 53 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St 54 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State 55 LB Kavell Conner 6'1" 242 4.63 Clemson 56 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV 57 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah 58 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson 59 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland 60 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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Hey Roy:
Now that we have some extra picks, can we draft Joe Webb? |
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SI.com had Earl Mitchell ranked higher than Geno Atkins. Maybe they know something....
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b3Q10 They like Cam Thomas 2.83, Carlton Mitchell 2.83, Alterraun Verner 2.82, Jamar Chaney 2.69, Joe Webb 2.66, AJ Edds 2.64, Newhouse 2.6, Stuckey 2.58
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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1 CB Alterraun Verner
2 DT Cam Thomas 5 LB Jamar Chaney 6 DT Geno Atkins 7 RB Jonathan Dwyer 8 RB Anthony Dixon 9 LB AJ Edds 10 OG Marshall Newhouse 11 S Darrell Stuckey 12 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 13 OG Shelley Smith 14 CB AJ Jefferson 15 FS Robert Johnson 16 RB Deji Karim
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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I look at the NE Patriots. They can lose important players and have someone waiting in the wings to come forward. Welker goes down and Edelman fills in well. Their QB hits the dirt and Cassel (sp?) comes to the rescue. They have been able to acquire first round choices by trading off good players and having just as good players waiting to take their place. Having a 1.A and 1.B WR on the team is required as far as I am concerned until he is used or traded. AD might still be tradable or keep him another year. |
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Stephen Williams WR Toledo 6-5 210 4.50 15 36 1/2 2.52 1.48 10'05" 4.11 6.81 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehMxI_i61xE
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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Roy:
As usual, you trumped me. Yes, he looks very good, length, speed, and athleticism. Not sure about his routes, but his hands look decent. NFL Draft Scout lists him at number 40 out of 400+ receivers. Project him into the 7th round or UFA. I doubt he would ever be a #1 receiver but you never know. Plaxico Burress is about that size and he did pretty well until his head exploded. |
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1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma 3 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas 4 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee 5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri 6 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St 7 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers 8 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St. 9 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois 10 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest 11 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St 12 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn 13 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia 14 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California 15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford 16 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi 17 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas 18 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee 19 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech 20 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina 21 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana 22 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas 23 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida 24 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa) 25 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida 26 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia 27 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor 28 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan 29 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington 30 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA 31 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC 32 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue 33 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Mississippi St 34 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St 35 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky 36 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo 37 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt 38 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St 39 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah 40 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU 41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa 42 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa 43 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham 44 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame 45 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane 46 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St. 47 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson 48 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.60 Oklahoma 49 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St. 50 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut 51 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn 52 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois 53 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo 54 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St 55 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona 56 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota 57 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut 58 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St 59 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky 60 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State 61 CB Joshua Moore 5'11" 188 4.50 Kansas St 62 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV 63 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland 64 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii 65 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech 66 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana 67 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina 68 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville 69 s Kyle McCarthy 6'0" 205 4.58 Notre Dame 70 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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The board is down to 60. As much as I like LeFevour and Skelton, I've decided to not draft a QB this year. I've also decided to add C.J. Spiller since there are conversations out there that he could fall to #20. He's not was we need, but he'd be the BPA most likely if he makes it to me. So, without further ado.....
1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee 2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma 3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee 4 RB C.J. Spiller 5'11" 196 4.27 Clemson 5 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas 6 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri 7 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St 8 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers 9 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St. 10 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St 11 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest 12 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn 13 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi 14 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois 15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford 16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee 17 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 South Florida 18 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia 19 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California 20 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas 21 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech 22 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana 23 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington 24 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP 25 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida 26 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas 27 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Miss St 28 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor 29 DT Torrell Troup 6'3" 314 5.18 Central Florida 30 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC 31 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA 32 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo 33 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St 34 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St 35 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue 36 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt 37 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU 38 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky 39 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn 40 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St 41 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St. 42 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona 43 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame 44 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah 45 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St. 46 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St 47 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State 48 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota 49 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois 50 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky 51 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane 52 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson 53 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV 54 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut 55 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo 56 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville 57 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech 58 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina 59 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana 60 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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