Trade Dunta?

[Keith]

Originally Posted by WMH

Is 4:00 PM, EST a magic time for Dunta to either sign the tender or a long term deal?

It's a deadline to sign a long-term deal. Once it passes, both sides will have to wait until after the season to reopen long-term contract negotiations.

Originally Posted by Mike

The Ravens locked up Suggs. Two more hours to get a deal done, and we all know that a deal with Dunta is not happening, not matter how much us eternal optomists have held out any hope.

Atogwe is signing his tender.

Dunta is the last of the F-tagged mohicans...

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

It's a deadline to sign a long-term deal. Once it passes, both sides will have to wait until after the season to reopen long-term contract negotiations.


Atogwe is signing his tender.

Dunta is the last of the F-tagged mohicans...

Like Lance Z says in his latest column, good bye Dunta. One and done is what we should expect.

That is why I say trade the guy. Let him go.

[WMH]

Can they negotiate/sign an extension during the season?

[Keith]

Originally Posted by WMH

Can they negotiate/sign an extension during the season?

Nope.

Originally Posted by painekiller

Like Lance Z says in his latest column, good bye Dunta. One and done is what we should expect.

That is why I say trade the guy. Let him go.

No, no, no. He plays 2009 with the Texans as a F-tag. Then tag his butt again next February THEN trade him. That is the proper order.

And it seems EVERYONE is basing their dislike of Dunta based on his 2008 performance. Here's the deal - he returned ahead of schedule from devastating injurIES... proving his heart and desire for the team we love, and that he was at least serviceable (i.e. better than Bennett, better than Molden, better than Petey) means he is worth using the f-tag on this season to see if he can return to his 2007 form (which imo was BETTER than his rookie season).

I am more convinced than ever that the best option for all as it stands right now is for Dunta to sign his tender this year and for him to report to camp on time.

[Mike]

I really wish that we knew the true story about the negotiations. I love Dunta, he is the heart and soul of this team. Not sure how much damage has been done, but I am hoping that they can come to a reasonable deal
for both sides, and #23 stays here. Now onto getting #59 and #81 deals to keep them here for a long, long time as well as signing the draftees.

His heart and character should not be questioned as Keith indicates.

[barrett]

I hope Dunta has a great season this year. Hopefully the Injury is all the way behind him and he is back to being a good starting NFL CB. If he is then I hope he gets paid. I don't care who pays him. Either we give him the long term deal after seeing him play at a high level. Or we trade him after the year to another team after tagging him again. Either way it is clear that using the tag and keeping him is the #1 option.

To trade him right now, we'd need some other team to give him the long term deal he is seeking from us. Otherwise he won't sign the tender to get traded and another team won't give anything up for a guy without knowing they can keep him. He is basically untradable right now unless some other team is willing to come along and pay him a big long term deal AND give us fair compensation. That's not happening. This means we keep him or we let him walk.

[Keith]

No deal. Check this from the chron clip below though:

The last time Robinson spoke he said he was prepared to sit out training camp and part of the season.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6531114.html

Missing any part of the regular season would be beyond stupid.

Robinson's biggest play here has to be to get the Texans to write into his agreement that he will not be franchised in 2010. That, plus maybe a freakish risk-averse tendency to another injury, is the only thing I can think of that would keep Robinson from signing his tender right now.

Honestly though, if he misses training camp, I start to wonder about rescinding the tender altogether. Part of what I'm paying Robinson for in the $10 million is his on-field leadership, and if he isn't there, then that's a big negative toward his 2009 value.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

Honestly though, if he misses training camp, I start to wonder about rescinding the tender altogether. Part of what I'm paying Robinson for in the $10 million is his on-field leadership, and if he isn't there, then that's a big negative toward his 2009 value.

That is why I have been saying to trade him, let him shop himself. Take a 1st or a 2nd round pick, he will not help you missing all of camp, and then having to sit out. His advisers are playing this all wrong.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Keith

Honestly though, if he misses training camp, I start to wonder about rescinding the tender altogether. Part of what I'm paying Robinson for in the $10 million is his on-field leadership, and if he isn't there, then that's a big negative toward his 2009 value.

That is the conclusion I came to a couple of weeks ago. Even if he were to sign for the first game, he wouldn't really be available until week 3-4. Given that, we will in effect be paying 12 million for him. Ask yourself, is there anyway on Gods green earth Dunta is worth that? Also factor in the negatives of the hold out and a very likely negative person in the locker room. I could very easily see him doing his best to do everything he could to undermine what any of the coaches are trying to do. He is pissed (right or wrong about it) he didn't get to go to FA or get the mega contract and isn't to be trusted to be a team player at this point. IMO, if he hasn't signed by at least 2 weeks before the start of the season, pull the offer, put the money saved to use and get DeMeco signed and pick up a could of depth guys.