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Old 04-08-2009, 04:24 AM
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Anyone think Matthew Stafford is going to fall all the way to the Jets at 17? Anyone?
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:45 AM
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Anyone think Matthew Stafford is going to fall all the way to the Jets at 17? Anyone?
Ummmm.....no. Somebody will trade up to 11 to get him.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:55 AM
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Anyone think Matthew Stafford is going to fall all the way to the Jets at 17? Anyone?
Not me. You'd have to go all the way back to the 2000 draft to find a year when the first QB selected waited around that long (Chad Pennington, 18th overall), assuming you think Stafford would still be the first QB selected, of course (I realize Sanchez is picked higher in this composite mock).

I think there's bound to be a team willing to move up for a QB if Stafford and Sanchez start slipping out of the top ten picks.

If you want a more plausible draft daydream, start thinking about the pandemonium that would ensue should the Lions let time expire on the first overall pick. Now THAT'S something to think about.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:06 AM
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If you want a more plausible draft daydream, start thinking about the pandemonium that would ensue should the Lions let time expire on the first overall pick. Now THAT'S something to think about.
Should the Rams run up to the podium after time expired, would their draft pick get #1 guaranteed money or #2?
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:25 AM
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Should the Rams run up to the podium after time expired, would their draft pick get #1 guaranteed money or #2?
You're assuming they would run. What team would rush into that mess AND have to negotiate with that player's agent who will no doubt want #1 guaranteed money?

This is the kind of scenario that was unfathomable ten years ago that while still far-fetched has some economic reasoning to make the NFL offseason glitz event turn into a mockery. The rookie cap in the new CBA needs to address the bonus structure, and some better clarity on the draft clock rules is probably needed here, too.

If I had to guess, in answering your question, the Lions would probably still owe #1 money to their pick and the Rams would owe #2 to theirs, but this is kinda unchartered territory here (Vikings and Kevin Williams obviously come to mind), especially at the top of the draft.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:37 PM
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If I had to guess, in answering your question, the Lions would probably still owe #1 money to their pick and the Rams would owe #2 to theirs, but this is kinda unchartered territory here (Vikings and Kevin Williams obviously come to mind), especially at the top of the draft.
The agent for #2 , wait #1, no I mean...the guy the Rams picked would absolutely DEMAND #1 money. Remember how crazy things got when the Manning/Cutler thing went down. I think this would be MUCH worse.

I actually kinda hope this happens....you could end up several teams letting their clock run out and no picks made. Someone would flinch eventually, and once that happened the other teams would have rugby style scrum to get their picks in.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:57 PM
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Remember how crazy things got when the Manning/Cutler thing went down.
If you mean Manning/Rivers, then yes. Manning wanted # 1 money since he was picked there and Rivers' agent thought his client was going to the team with the #1 pick, so he was worth the same.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:20 PM
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If you mean Manning/Rivers, then yes. Manning wanted # 1 money since he was picked there and Rivers' agent thought his client was going to the team with the #1 pick, so he was worth the same.

Yes I meant Manning/Rivers. My bad
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:39 PM
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Should the Rams run up to the podium after time expired, would their draft pick get #1 guaranteed money or #2?
We already have the Vikings as precedent. The agent will demand to be slotted as the player selected in the xth draft position while the team will argue that the player was actually the yth player selected and should be slotted accordingly. All that adds up to a protracted holdout and ill will from the very beginning of the player's time with the team.

It would be comedy gold, however, if the first hour of the draft had passed by and no players were selected because nobody wanted to pay for the overall #1 pick. Berman would freak, not to mention all the Giants/Jets fans in attendance.
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