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Old 01-05-2010, 06:41 PM
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The list may grow and it may shrink. I'm just throwing it out here early. As more is known about which underclassmen are going to declare or return, the better the list will look. For your amusement....

1 DT Ndamukong Suh 6'4" 302 Nebraska
2 S *Eric Berry 5'11" 203 Tennessee
3 DT *Gerald McCoy 6'4" 295 Oklahoma
4 CB *Joe Haden 5'11" 190 Florida
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
6 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 Alabama
7 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 Florida St
8 RB *Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 235 Georgia Tech
9 RB CJ Spiller 5'11" 195 Clemson
10 OT Russell Okung 6'6" 305 Oklahoma St
11 DE *Derrick Morgan 6'4" 265 Georgia Tech
12 OG Mike Iupati 6'5" 330 Idaho
13 WR *Dez Bryant 6'2" 210 Oklahoma St
14 WR Brandon LaFell 6'3" 206 LSU
15 LB Brandon Spikes 6'3" 256 Florida
16 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 305 Tennessee
17 LB Sergio Kindle 6'4" 242 Texas
18 LB Ricky Sapp 6'4" 250 Clemson
19 WR Golden Tate 5'11" 195 Notre Dame
20 LB Eric Norwood 6'0" 252 South Carolina
21 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
22 OT Kyle Calloway 6'7" 318 Iowa
23 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 Wake Forest
24 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 Texas
25 CB Javier Arenas 5'9" 198 Alabama
26 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 Rutgers
27 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 TCU
28 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 Stanford
29 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 Kansas
30 RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 LSU
31 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 Tennessee
32 CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
33 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
34 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 Mississippi St
35 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 Missouri
36 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 Alabama
37 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 Iowa
38 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 Iowa
39 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
40 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 Central Michigan
41 LB O'Brien Schofield 6'2" 250 Wisconsin
42 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 Duke
43 LB Darryl Sharpton 5'11" 235 Miami
44 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 Utah
45 DT Boo Robinson 6'1" 305 Wake Forest
46 CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
47 RB Chris Brown 5'11" 210 Oklahoma
48 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 North Carolina St
49 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:48 PM
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I'm willing to bet that Dan Williams doesn't exactly remember when the last time he weighed 305 lbs.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:37 PM
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Yeah, while I'm at it I thought I'd put together my list of Free Agents by priority. Guys at the top of the list would make more money or at least I would offer them more money. I get DeMeco locked up first before going out on the market. When it comes to O.D. I compare him to Ben Watson and Tony Scheffler and try to find the best bargain.

1 DeMeco Ryans, Houston Texans (26)
2 Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders (30)
3 Derrick Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
4 Nick Collins, Green Bay Packers (27)
5 Antoine Bethea, Indianapolis Colts (26)
6 Logan Mankins, New England Patriots (28)
7 Barry Cofield, New York Giants (26)
8 Cadillac Williams, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (28)
9 Ben Watson, New England Patriots (29)
10 Daryn Colledge, Green Bay Packers (28)
11 Mark Clayton, Baltimore Ravens (28)
12 Owen Daniels, Houston Texans (27)
13 Tony Scheffler, Denver Broncos (27)
14 David Baas, San Francisco 49ers (28)
15 Mark Anderson, Chicago Bears (27)
16 Richard Marshall, Carolina Panthers (25)
17 Carlos Rogers, Washington Redskins (29)
18 Chester Pitts, Houston Texans (31)
19 Darryl Tapp, Seattle Seahawks (25)
20 Jerious Norwood, Atlanta Falcons (27)
21 Jerome Harrison, Cleveland Browns (27)
22 Jason Avant, Philadelphia Eagles (27)
23 Chris Kuper, Denver Broncos (27)
24 Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25)
25 Alex Smith, New England Patriots (28)
26 Danieal Manning, Chicago Bears (28)
27 Chris Spencer, Seattle Seahawks (28)
28 Adam Terry, Baltimore Ravens (28)
29 David Clowney, New York Jets (25)
30 Josh Bullocks, Chicago Bears (27)
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:52 PM
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Just what we need - another Chris Brown!
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:52 AM
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Yeah, while I'm at it I thought I'd put together my list of Free Agents by priority. Guys at the top of the list would make more money or at least I would offer them more money. I get DeMeco locked up first before going out on the market. When it comes to O.D. I compare him to Ben Watson and Tony Scheffler and try to find the best bargain.

1 DeMeco Ryans, Houston Texans (26)
2 Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders (30)
3 Derrick Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
4 Nick Collins, Green Bay Packers (27)
5 Antoine Bethea, Indianapolis Colts (26)
6 Logan Mankins, New England Patriots (28)
7 Barry Cofield, New York Giants (26)
8 Cadillac Williams, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (28)
9 Ben Watson, New England Patriots (29)
10 Daryn Colledge, Green Bay Packers (28)
11 Mark Clayton, Baltimore Ravens (28)
12 Owen Daniels, Houston Texans (27)
13 Tony Scheffler, Denver Broncos (27)
14 David Baas, San Francisco 49ers (28)
15 Mark Anderson, Chicago Bears (27)
16 Richard Marshall, Carolina Panthers (25)
17 Carlos Rogers, Washington Redskins (29)
18 Chester Pitts, Houston Texans (31)
19 Darryl Tapp, Seattle Seahawks (25)
20 Jerious Norwood, Atlanta Falcons (27)
21 Jerome Harrison, Cleveland Browns (27)
22 Jason Avant, Philadelphia Eagles (27)
23 Chris Kuper, Denver Broncos (27)
24 Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25)
25 Alex Smith, New England Patriots (28)
26 Danieal Manning, Chicago Bears (28)
27 Chris Spencer, Seattle Seahawks (28)
28 Adam Terry, Baltimore Ravens (28)
29 David Clowney, New York Jets (25)
30 Josh Bullocks, Chicago Bears (27)
With no agreement you can take off all the players with less than 7 years experience like Tony Scheffler. Our very own OD and Rynas will be RFA's as well.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:46 PM
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O.D., Ryans, & Pitts aren't going anywhere. dRob now..........?
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:56 AM
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I'm seeing lots of love for Seymour as a FA. He's a good player, I guess I'm just not understanding where he'd play. He's essentially a better Antonio Smith. So, we could bump one of those guys down to 3-tech, but then what do we do with Okoye? I'd have no problem cutting him, myself. But, we know that's not a realistic possibility.

I just don't see a fit there.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:57 AM
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I'm going over a couple of scenarios very EARLY. It's always fun to see who I mock select in the 6th round getting picked on draft day in the 2nd. Here's two such mocks...

1. WLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
2. RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
3. FS Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt
4. CB Syd'Quan Thompson, California
5a. OG Thomas Austin, Clemson
5b. CB Alterraun Verner, UCLA
6. DT Nate Collins, Virginia
7. DT Kade Weston, Georgia

1. FS Earl Thomas**, Texas
2. RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
3. CB Syd'Quan Thompson, California
4. CB Alterraun Verner, UCLA
5a. OG Thomas Austin, Clemson
5b. OG Jon Asamoah, Illinois
6. DT Nate Collins, Virginia
7. DT Torrell Troup, Central Florida

Has Earl Thomas declared?
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:02 PM
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With LBs that can tackle and a SS like Pollard, Earl Thomas would be a good fit here since there would be plenty of back 7 help covering up his slight deficiencies in the run game. And I'd love to have a FS with ball skills (note this is assuming we bring back Pollard).
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:08 PM
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If Thomas declares, and he's there at our pick, that's the guy I want.

Roy, I can't see us taking a LB in the first, we've got much bigger needs that need to be filled.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:33 PM
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It would be very tough to go LB in the first due to the fact that Cushing stays on the field on 3rd down and does a great job of it. That means if you draft a great WLB you are removing Ryans or Cushing on 3rd down (the WLB's biggest down) and because of that it is a limited impact.

I would hope secondary, but I would be ok with OL, RB, WR, or DL in that order also.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:39 PM
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It would be very tough to go LB in the first due to the fact that Cushing stays on the field on 3rd down and does a great job of it. That means if you draft a great WLB you are removing Ryans or Cushing on 3rd down (the WLB's biggest down) and because of that it is a limited impact.

I would hope secondary, but I would be ok with OL, RB, WR, or DL in that order also.
OK if we take Weatherspoon that would be 3 guys that can all stay on the field. The team can rotate the coverages, and blitzes. All three guys can play all three positions, not a bad thing, what if Ryans went down? With Weatherspoon and Cushing, you are OK in coverage.

I want to have a super group, either at LB or on the DL. I don't care where.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:02 PM
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Weatherspoon would be a solid pick so long as he can cover the likes of Reggie Wayne on a deep post or fly-pattern, otherwise if he can't impersonate a CB lets make that position top-priority in the first round if we go D. But for a player that would be off the field in nickel packages, Cody or another big run-stopping DT seems to make more sense ?
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:07 PM
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OK if we take Weatherspoon that would be 3 guys that can all stay on the field. The team can rotate the coverages, and blitzes. All three guys can play all three positions, not a bad thing, what if Ryans went down? With Weatherspoon and Cushing, you are OK in coverage.

I want to have a super group, either at LB or on the DL. I don't care where.
So you want to draft another LB and keep all 3 on the field at once on 3rd downs?
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:30 PM
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FYI - In Rob Rang's most recent mock, he has us taking RB Jahvid Best. Another mock on CBS has us taking CB Patrick Robinson of Florida St.

I guess Best would be drafted on the "Best Available" theory.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:51 PM
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So you want to draft another LB and keep all 3 on the field at once on 3rd downs?
Old School baby. Thank old Steelers Russel, Lambert and Hamm.

Any one of the LBs can cover a TE or a RB.

Three WRs? You pull one of the LBs, but which one?
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:56 PM
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That's my point. 3rd down is a 3 WR down in the NFL. Actually, for some teams 1st and 2nd down are 3 WR downs. It's a passing league.

That is why I didn't like taking Cushing at first. Because in the NFL only two of your LBs play more than half the snaps and I wrongly assumed that as a SLB, Cushing would be the type to come out in those situations. Obviously he is not.

So, with what we have at LB already, drafting Witherspoon would mean that either our first round pick, or one of our two pro bowl LBs would be playing less than half the snaps. Its' just not going to happen.

If we go LB at all I would suspect it is a late rounder to back up Demeco. Do you guys have eyes on anyone who fits that billing (6th or 7th round plugger who is long on instincts but likely appears short on athleticism).
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:09 PM
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Actually, for some teams 1st and 2nd down are 3 WR downs. It's a passing league.

So, with what we have at LB already, drafting Witherspoon would mean that either our first round pick, or one of our two pro bowl LBs would be playing less than half the snaps. Its' just not going to happen.

If we go LB at all I would suspect it is a late rounder to back up Demeco. Do you guys have eyes on anyone who fits that billing (6th or 7th round plugger who is long on instincts but likely appears short on athleticism).
First, we don't have to take a LB off the field in Nickle packages. In fact, most of the time when we saw a passing situation, one of the D-Lineman would come off the field and we'd rush only 3. So, a 3-3-5 look isn't out of the question.

Secondly, just because you draft a player in the first round doesn't mean you will get a 1st round talent. If we had this team and were going into the 2004 draft, I'd rather select D.J. Williams than to select Ahmad Carroll. I'm also considering the possibility of getting a player like Nathan Vasher later in the draft to meet my need at the CB position.

Lastly, if you are merely looking for a player to be DeMeco's backup in the 6th round, might I suggest

Josh Hull, Penn State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.77.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/565760

Boris Lee, Troy
Height: 6-0. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.76.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1128971

Ryan D'Imperio, Rutgers
Height: 6-3. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115023
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:11 PM
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So you want to draft another LB and keep all 3 on the field at once on 3rd downs?
Yes. I'll also have the offense guess which one is coming on the blitz too.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:07 AM
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Yes. I'll also have the offense guess which one is coming on the blitz too.
Roy and I agree on this one. Cushing was the best coverage LB in the NFL, stats bear that out, and Weatherspoon is considered a top cover guy. Funny thing is both of these guys can also rush the passer. Now, let the QB guess which guy is hot and which guy is laying back.
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