2012 mocks

[painekiller]

I know for some this is way to early, but with little going on in the world of football, now is not a bad time to start this thread.

draftsite.com has a 7 round mock for the 2012 already up. They are using 2011 draft order, this is the 1st of many to follow. Texans picks

11 Mark Barron S Alabama 6' 2" 210
42 Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
73 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
104 Peyton Thompson CB San Jose State 5' 11" 170
135 Carmen Messina ILB New Mexico 6' 2" 222
173 Tony Bergstrom OT Utah 6' 6" 310
203 Jake Bequette DE Arkansas 6' 5" 270

Not claiming to know all of the players, so I will talk players I know of and positions of need.

The current needs appear to be: Safety, WR2, ILB, OLB, DE, OL.

How would I approach this draft?

11 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215 Fuller has played in our offense, he is a big strong WR, he had a big day against Patrick Peterson in the bowl game. Solid pick up to be the #2WR and develop to a future #1WR.

42 Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama 6' 4" 250 Hightower would be insurance/replacement for Ryans. The history of recover to an elite level for an Achilles injury is not promising. So a stud for the middle of the defense is needed.

The next move I would make is DB. Then I would look for a OLB to develop. Every year or two will be time to draft a project to play OLB in the 3-4.

Then I would go from there .

[painekiller]

This one is interesting one, Walter has the Texans picking at 20, and you know what that means, again they miss they playoffs. So does Gary get the boot? I don't know that, but a decent mock here.

20 Cliff Harris, CB/PR, Oregon
This is a tough mock draft projection because we don't know how Houston's defensive players will adjust to Wade Phillips' new 3-4. However, the cornerback position could still be a big area of need if Kareem Jackson doesn't improve and Brandon Harris doesn't flash as a rookie.

Cliff Harris had six interceptions and four punt returns for a touchdown as a sophomore.

52 Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
Now that the Texans have fixed their defense, maybe they'll finally obtain a reliable No. 2 receiver for Matt Schaub.

Another dynamic wideout out of North Carolina, the 6-5, 210-pound Dwight Jones caught 62 balls for 946 yards and four touchdowns in 2010.

My attempt, I am thinking that the Texans sign a FA to start at CB this off season and because of that they skip the CB in the 1st. In the 2nd round I did an A or B. A is if they have to look at an upgrade to Ryans who has a hard time coming back from from the heal (hope I am wrong but stats about his injury from other players is not encouraging), my B 2nd pick is in case Ryans has a full recovery.

20 Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M (I admit the Aggie in me is rooting for this)
52 A Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
52 B Ray Ray Armstrong, SS, Miami

[painekiller]

My reason for posting these mocks: It give me players to watch this upcoming college season. Other wise I have no reason to watch.

This last season I saw Watt's play in no fewer than 6 game because I was watching John Clay, who turn out not to be drafted.

So go to the mocks, see who the so called expert think are the top prospects, and watch some college football.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by painekiller

52 Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
Now that the Texans have fixed their defense, maybe they'll finally obtain a reliable No. 2 receiver for Matt Schaub.

Another dynamic wideout out of North Carolina, the 6-5, 210-pound Dwight Jones caught 62 balls for 946 yards and four touchdowns in 2010.

This was TJ Yates' (our 5th round QB) goto receiver. Some good vids of these two hooking up on youtube. Perhaps they meet again?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Arky

This was TJ Yates' (our 5th round QB) goto receiver. Some good vids of these two hooking up on youtube. Perhaps they meet again?

I saw some of those highlights. He does look nice. I would not be opposed to Jones being a Texans, he looked solid, he plays in our offense, has decent enough speed, appears to have good hands and looks very good after the catch.

[Nconroe]

Here could be some other choices -some early cool-aid has Texans making playoffs again in several predictions

http://www.mockdraftmania.com/201105...raft-2-rounds/
29. Houston Texans Janzen Jackson FS Tennessee
61. Houston Texans Brandon Lindsey 3-4 LOLB Pittsburgh

ok, another early go
http://www.footballmockery.com/2011/...ock-draft.html
24.) Houston Texans Vinny Curry - DE-Marshall

or
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/P...k-draft-050311
21. Houston Texans — Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford

[NBT]

With the draft just past, and Wade Phillips as the honcho of the defense, I think the 2012 Draft will address offense again. The #2 WR would seem to be the logical place to look, being that AJ needs a good #2 to take some of the double coverage off of him. It is way early yet but I will be watching the kid from NC this season.

[painekiller]

11 Luke Kuechly* ILB Boston College 6' 3" 225
42 Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame 6' 2" 245
73 James Wilson OG Florida 6' 3" 318
104 Shea McClellin DE Boise State 6' 3" 262
135 Lance Lewis WR East Carolina 6' 3" 200
173 Travian Robertson DT South Carolina 6' 4" 298
203 Brandon Bolden RB Mississippi 5' 11" 220

I could see an ILB in the 1st round, not likely, but possible. Now another OLB in round two? That would be three years in row, Barwin, Reed, and then Fleming. Now if Mario leaves in FAs then maybe a 2nd on OLB. But you also draft a DE in round 4 that will most likely be a conversion OLB, now you are getting alful young at OLB.

My early shot, and this is more about position than players at this point.

11 Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama 6' 4" 250
42 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
73 Derek Wolfe 3-4 DE Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
104 Brian Peters S Northwestern 6' 4" 215
135 Al Netter OT Northwestern 6' 6" 310
173 Drew Butler PT Georgia 6' 2" 205
203 Malik Jackson 3-4 OLB Tennessee 6' 5" 265

First off I want to say I have only watched Hightower Fuller and Butler play off this mock. I picked guys that looked to fit a role on paper, after all this is a summer mock.

ILB is a concern until Ryans proves he has recovered from his injury. Time to get a #2 that can grow into a future #1. Need to think about replacing Smith at some point at DE. The rest of the picks were just a crap shoot.

[nunusguy]

I dunno, what are the odds of somebody BESIDES Luck being the first overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft ?

[painekiller]

11 Riley Reiff* OT Iowa 6' 6" 280
43 Billy Winn DT Boise State 6' 4" 288
75 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
107 Zach Collaros QB Cincinnati 6' 0" 209
139 Alex Hoffman OG Cincinnati 6' 5" 293
171 James Rodgers WR Oregon State 5' 7" 185
203 Tyler Moeller OLB Ohio State 6' 0" 210

I know this is preseason, pre FA signings, pre anything, but come on. Not a great mock IMO.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by painekiller

11 Riley Reiff* OT Iowa 6' 6" 280
43 Billy Winn DT Boise State 6' 4" 288
75 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
107 Zach Collaros QB Cincinnati 6' 0" 209
139 Alex Hoffman OG Cincinnati 6' 5" 293
171 James Rodgers WR Oregon State 5' 7" 185
203 Tyler Moeller OLB Ohio State 6' 0" 210

I know this is preseason, pre FA signings, pre anything, but come on. Not a great mock IMO.

What positions do I think are next years draft needs pre-FA signings: WR, DE, S, CB, ILB, OLB, NT, P, KR

And where do I expect them to be picking?

21 Mark Barron S Alabama 6' 2" 210
53 Jaye Howard 3-4DE Florida 6' 3" 295
85 Courtney Upshaw ILB Alabama 6' 2" 262
117 Janoris Jenkins CB Florida 5' 11" 186
149 Travian Robertson DT South Carolina 6' 4" 298
181 Drew Butler PT Georgia 6' 2" 205
214 Dan Hoch OT Missouri 6' 7" 318

I guess I will be redoing in a week or so when the FAs are signed.

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24 Dwight Jones WR UNC 6' 4" 225
56 Mychal Kendricks OLB Cal 6' 0" 241
88 Jeff Allen OT Illinois 6' 5" 305
120 Christian Tupou DT USC 6' 2" 285
152 Brandon Taylor S LSU 6' 0" 191
184 Jordan Jefferson QB LSU 6' 5" 220
215 Nate Eachus RB Colgate 5' 10" 206

They have us in the playoffs, but not there for very long.

My attempt

24 Dwight Jones WR UNC 6' 4" 245 or Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
56 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
88 Ben Jones OC Georgia 6' 3" 300
120 Joel Foreman OG Michigan State 6' 4" 304
152 Tony Jerod-Eddie DT Texas A&M 6' 5" 300
184 Miles Burris ILB San Diego State 6' 3" 240
215 Bradley Sowell OT Mississippi 6' 7" 315

[painekiller]

Here is one I can get my teeth around.

25 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
57 Nigel Bradham ILB Florida State 6' 2" 235
89 Lucas Nix OT Pittsburgh 6' 6" 300
121 Austin Davis QB Southern Miss 6' 2" 208
153 Melvin Ingram DT South Carolina 6' 2" 264
185 Tramain Thomas S Arkansas 6' 0" 198
216 Jeffrey Demps RB Florida 5' 8" 183

My attempt:

25 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
50 Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama 6' 4" 250
89 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
121 traded with #57 to get #50
153 Chris Galippo ILB USC 6' 2" 250
185 Momo Thomas CB Colorado State 5' 9" 179
216 Ben Burkett OC Northwestern 6' 4" 300

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25 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
57 Nigel Bradham ILB Florida State 6' 2" 235
88 Blake Gideon S Texas 6' 1" 200
120 D.J. Woods WR Cincinnati 6' 1" 170
152 Andrew Sweat OLB Ohio State 6' 2" 238
184 Marcus Bartels CB Florida Atlantic 5' 9" 170
215 Isaac Madison CB Arkansas 5' 11" 185

Better than their last attempt, but still to many DBs. The Texans need to start looking at some of the core positions on the offensive side of the ball, so they can develop young guys for depth and later stars.

My attempt;
25 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
57 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
88 Ryan Miller OG Colorado 6' 8" 320
120 Courtney Upshaw ILB Alabama 6' 2" 262
152 Cam Johnson DE Virginia 6' 4" 265
184 Trevor Robinson OG Notre Dame 6' 5" 300
215 Ben Burkett OC Northwestern 6' 4" 300

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25 Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
57 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
88 Ryan Miller OG Colorado 6' 8" 320
120 Chris Galippo ILB USC 6' 2" 250
152 Aaron Corp QB Richmond 6' 3" 200
184 Trevor Olson OT Northern Illinois 6' 6" 306
215 Antonio Fenelus CB Wisconsin 5' 9" 190

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25 Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
57 Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington 6' 3" 348
88 William Vlachos OC Alabama 6' 1" 292
120 Chris Galippo ILB USC 6' 2" 250
152 Brandon Taylor S LSU 6' 0" 191
184 Mike Harris CB Florida State 5' 11" 183
215 Matt McCants OT Alabama, Birmingham 6' 7" 295

My take

25 Dwight Jones WR UNC 6' 4" 245
57 Dont'a Hightower ILB Alabama 6' 4" 250
88 Antonio Allen S South Carolina 6' 2" 205
120 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
152 Brandon Taylor S LSU 6' 0" 191
184 Drew Butler PT Georgia 6' 2" 205
215 Damario Belcher WR Indiana 6' 5" 215

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25 Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
57 Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington 6' 3" 348
88 Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State 6' 4" 215
120 Eddie Whitley S Virginia Tech 6' 1" 192
152 Danny Trevathan ILB Kentucky 6' 1" 228
184 Alex Hoffman OG Cincinnati 6' 5" 293
215 Marcus Bartels CB Florida Atlantic 5' 9" 170

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27 Mark Barron S Alabama 6' 2" 210
59 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
90 Joel Foreman OG Michigan State 6' 4" 304
122 Zach Collaros QB Cincinnati 6' 0" 209
154 Lance Lewis WR East Carolina 6' 3" 200
186 J.K. Schaffer ILB Cincinnati 6' 1" 223
218 Mike Harris CB Florida State 5' 11" 183

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26 Mark Barron S Alabama 6' 2" 210
58 A.J. Jenkins WR Illinois 6' 1" 185
89 Jaye Howard DT Florida 6' 3" 295
121 Rokevious Watkins OT South Carolina 6' 4" 340
153 Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas 6' 1" 241
185 Jacquies Smith DE Missouri 6' 4" 255
217 Jarrett Lee QB LSU 6' 2" 207


My take? Going in a different from there picks type draft.

26 Courtney Upshaw ILB Alabama 6' 2" 262
58 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
89 Ryan Miller OG Colorado 6' 8" 320
121 Aaron Henry S Wisconsin 6' 0" 210
153 Julian Miller DE West Virginia 6' 4" 260
185 Matt McCants OT Alabama, Birmingham 6' 7" 295
217 Micanor Regis DT Miami 6' 3" 300

[painekiller]

Your not going to like the drop, but they have us not making the playoffs, so here it goes.

17 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
49 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
81 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State 6' 3" 202.
112 Ryan Miller OG Colorado 6' 8" 320
144 George Iloka S Boise State 6' 3" 207
176 Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College 6' 1" 196
208 Adrian Robinson DE Temple 6' 2" 248