7 Round Mock

[painekiller]

Sporting News has a 7 round Mock

they have us taking

1. CJ Spiller RB
Texans officials would be giddy if Spiller were to slip this far and would waste no time drafting him. Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews is the fallback option.
2. Perrish Cox CB
The Texans need a cornerback after losing Dunta Robinson. Cox likely would have been a first-round pick if not for concerns about his off-field behavior.
3. Linval Joseph DT
4. Darrell Stuckey S
5. Zane Beadles G
6. John Estes C
6. Cory Jackson FB
7. Trindon Holliday WR

My Cherry Pick is:

20 C.J. Spiller RB Clemson unless I can trade down, not many option here.
51 Kareem Jackson CB
81 Linval Joseph DT East Carolina
118 Ben Tate RB Auburn
150 Torrell Troup DT UCF
187 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah S Indiana (PA)
197 Andre Anderson RB Tulane
227 John Skelton QB Fordham

This is one of the worse draft boards I have seen. IMO No way Skelton is a 7th rounder, the late 1st sucks and the early 2nd is loaded. Dan Williams is there 85 best player....
John Skelton QB Fordham

[kRocket]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Sporting News has a 7 round Mock This is one of the worse draft boards I have seen. IMO No way Skelton is a 7th rounder, the late 1st sucks and the early 2nd is loaded. Dan Williams is there 85 best player....
John Skelton QB Fordham

I agree, but that is what makes it a horse race. We will know shortly !!

[HPF Bob]

Using the original Draftsite.com mock which appears to be updated to include recent trades, shows the Texans with:

1. 20: Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
2. 51: Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
3. 81: Dexter McCluster, RB, Ole Miss
4. 118: Mitch Petrus, OG, Arkansas
5. 150: Andre Roberts, WR, The Citadel
6. 187: Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech (fulfilling our Va Tech draft quota)
6. 197: Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky
7. 227: Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma St.

Not having done as much study as usual, here's my cherry pick:

1. 20: Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno St.
2. 51: Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
3. 81: Mike Johnson, OG, Alabama
4. 118: Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma St. (bet he goes earlier than this)
5. 150: Corey Peters, DT, Kentucky
6. 187: Andre Dixon, RB, Connecticut
6. 197: Justin Cole, DE, San Jose St.
7. 227: Kevin Matthews, C, Texas A&M

[painekiller]

1. 20: Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
2. 51: Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
3. 81: Dexter McCluster, RB, Ole Miss
4. 118: Mitch Petrus, OG, Arkansas
5. 150: Andre Roberts, WR, The Citadel
6. 187: Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech (fulfilling our Va Tech draft quota)
6. 197: Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky
7. 227: Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma St.

Would you be willing to trade out of the 1st for say Denver's #43 and #45? We than can go
43 Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
45 Nate Allen S South Florida
51 Linval Joseph* DT East Carolina
81 Lamarr Houston DT Texas
118 Ben Tate RB Auborn

Defense goes off the chart, your back end gets a lot tougher and your DL jumps up in it's ability to move the pocket, and disrupt the run. OL is a still an issue, unless you go early.

And/or would you be willing to trade next years 1st for Philly's 2nd round pick # 37 and select someone like Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech, who is rumored to be on the Texans radar?

[Blitzwood]

I used walterfootball.com since they updated their mock today(4/15) and extented it to 6 rounds. They have us taking:

20. Earl Thomas FS (don't think he'll be around)
51. Ben Tate RB ( look familiar)
81. Amari Spievey CB
118. D'Anthony Smith DT
150. Blair White WR
187. Patrick Stoudamire CB
197. Alex Daniels DE

In this scenario I have the Texans trading their 20th pick for Cleveland's 2nd (38) and two out of their three third rounders (71 and 85). Holmgren knows how to be successful in this league and keep draft analysts guessing. He does it again this year by selecting Clausen at 7 without a doubt, but then the obvious qusetion becomes -who's he gonna throw it to? That's where we come in and select Demaryius Thomas for them, a potential number one. This also helps Kubiak/Smith immensely, he knows the quality depth this draft has in the early to middle rounds. Everyone wins with this trade. I have us selecting:

38. Kareem Jackson CB
51. Lamarr Houston DT
71. Jamar Chaney OLB
81. Amari Spievey CB
85. Jonathan Dwyer RB
118. Myron Lewis FS
150. Trindon Holliday PR/RB
187. Sergio Render OG
197. Alex Daniels DE

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I used walterfootball.com
Texans trading their 20th pick for Cleveland's 2nd (38) and two out of their three third rounders (71 and 85). Holmgren knows how to be successful in this league and keep draft analysts guessing. He does it again this year by selecting Clausen at 7 without a doubt, but then the obvious qusetion becomes -who's he gonna throw it to? That's where we come in and select Demaryius Thomas for them, a potential number one. This also helps Kubiak/Smith immensely, he knows the quality depth this draft has in the early to middle rounds. Everyone wins with this trade. I have us selecting:

38. Kareem Jackson CB
51. Lamarr Houston DT
71. Jamar Chaney OLB
81. Amari Spievey CB
85. Jonathan Dwyer RB
118. Myron Lewis FS
150. Trindon Holliday PR/RB
187. Sergio Render OG
197. Alex Daniels DE

38. CB Patrick Robinson - May be as good as Kyle Wilson
51. OG John Jerry - Run game improves and pass blocking too.
71. RB Toby Gerhart - Short yardage guy
81. RB Montario Hardesty - Insurance vs. injury
85. S Darrell Stuckey - I just like him too much to pass
118. QB Dan LeFevour - Keeps him out of Jax or Tenn (Te'o-Nesheim off board)
150. CB Kevin Thomas - Makes Molden expendable
187. FS Brian Jackson - Will compete with Stuckey for FS slot
197. WR Stephen Williams - My favorite WR not named Benn
227. OG Shelley Smith - Colorado kid with athleticism

The biggest problem is DL

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I used walterfootball.com

38. Kareem Jackson CB
51. Lamarr Houston DT
71. Jamar Chaney OLB
81. Amari Spievey CB
85. Jonathan Dwyer RB
118. Myron Lewis FS
150. Trindon Holliday PR/RB
187. Sergio Render OG
197. Alex Daniels DE

I'll play with your trade:

38 Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
51 Lamarr Houston, DT, Texas
71 Major Wright, FS, Florida
81 Amari Spievey CB
85 Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
118 Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
150 Jeff Byers, C/G, USC
187 Sergio Render, G, Virginia Tech
197 Stevenson Sylvester, OLB, Utah
227 Shelley Smith, OG Colorado State

[dalemurphy]

How about this trade: 20 and 197 to Phillie for 37, 70, 105

Here is a mock using Sporting News and then one using Walter with that trade in mind:

Sporting News
37.Kareem Jackson (cb)
51.Brian Price (dt)
70.Toby Gerhart (rb)
81.Hardesty (rb)
105.Tennant (c)
118. B Ghee (cb)
150. Myron Rolle (s)
187. Owasu-Ansah (s)
227. Skelton (qb)

Walter
37. Nate Allen (s)
51. Patrick Robinson (cb)
70. John Jerry (g)
81. J Dwyer (rb)
105. Tennant (c)
118. D'Anthony Smith (dt)
150. Joique Bell (rb)
187. Rashawn Jackson (fb)

[nunusguy]

9 QB Tim Tebow Florida
I know you all think I'm crazy but the truth is this kid (for the Bills) is a dream come true. Trading down if all three offensive tackles are taken is an option. The talk of the draft will be Tebow to the Bills if the LT's are gone.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/...cks/DREW.shtml
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Drew Boylhart continues to provide giggles and grins with his latest mock -
Tebow in the top 10. Right !
For further amusement he's also got us taking Dan Williams at #20. I mean who (besides Boylhart) actually thinks Dan Williams, the absolute best pure NT in this Draft, isn't taken by somebody in the first 19 picks with the NFL stampeding en masse to the 3-4 ?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Drew Boylhart continues to provide giggles and grins with his latest mock -
Tebow in the top 10. Right !
For further amusement he's also got us taking Dan Williams at #20. I mean who (besides Boylhart) actually thinks Dan Williams, the absolute best pure NT in this Draft, isn't taken by somebody in the first 19 picks with the NFL stampeding en masse to the 3-4 ?

The Sporting News has Dan Williams ranked 85th

here is there DT ranking

1 Ndamukong Suh
(Nebraska, DT) 6'3" 307 5.10 32 1.75 2.93 35.5 105.0 4.45 7.22 --
2 Gerald McCoy
(Oklahoma, DT) 6'4" 295 5.05 23 1.73 2.90 30.5 114.0 4.49 7.33 --
3 D'Anthony Smith
(Louisiana Tech, DT) 6'2" 304 4.91 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
4 Jared Odrick
(Penn State, DT) 6'5" 304 5.10 26 1.79 2.95 29.0 106.0 4.60 7.21 --
5 Brian Price
(UCLA, DT) 6'1" 303 5.16 34 1.74 2.93 28.5 96.0 -- -- --
6 Geno Atkins
(Georgia, DT) 6'1" 293 4.86 34 1.74 2.69 33.0 117.0 4.44 7.34 --
7 Arthur Jones
(Syracuse, DT) 6'3" 301 5.06 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
8 Lamarr Houston
(Texas, DT) 6'2" 305 4.88 30 1.65 2.84 33.5 114.0 4.72 7.62 --
9 Jeff Owens
(Georgia, DT) 6'1" 304 5.05 44 1.74 2.95 30.0 101.0 4.68 -- --
10 Al Woods
(LSU, DT) 6'3" 309 5.15 -- 1.74 3.01 37.0 109.0 4.67 7.45 --
11 Linval Joseph
(East Carolina, DT) 6'4" 328 5.10 39 1.80 2.99 30.0 100.0 4.72 8.12 --
12 Dan Williams
(Tennessee, DT) 6'2" 327 5.28 27 1.81 3.08 32.0 96.0 4.88 7.89 --
13 Cam Thomas
(North Carolina, DT) 6'4" 330 5.33 31 1.79 3.06 29.0 102.0 4.78 7.70 --
14 Earl Mitchell
(Arizona, DT) 6'1" 296 4.75 25 1.63 2.77 28.5 107.0 4.56 7.68 --
15 Corey Peters
(Kentucky, DT) 6'3" 300 5.08 -- 1.81 2.95 33.0 98.0 4.77 7.57 --
16 Mike Neal
(Purdue, DT) 6'3" 294 4.94 31 1.71 2.85 33.0 113.0 4.54 7.54 --
17 Tyson Alualu
(California, DT) 6'2" 295 4.94 21 1.68 2.83 35.5 112.0 4.44 7.16 --
18 Terrence Cody
(Alabama, DT) 6'3" 349 5.72 -- 1.93 3.30 20.5 90.0 5.05 8.20 --
19 Brandon Deaderick
(Alabama, DT) 6'3" 314 5.30 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20 Torrell Troup
(UCF, DT) 6'2" 314 5.18 34 1.81 2.99 29.0 98.0 4.72 7.63 --
21 Shaunte 'Boo' Robinson
(Wake Forest, DT) 6'1" 293 5.01 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
22 Andre Neblett
(Temple, DT) 6'0" 297 4.93 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
23 Kade Weston
(Georgia, DT) 6'4" 318 5.34 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
24 Aleric Mullins
(North Carolina, DT) 6'1" 321 4.99 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
25 Travis Ivey
(Maryland, DT) 6'3" 341 5.25 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
26 Nate Collins
(Virginia, DT) 6'2" 279 5.10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
27 Ekom Udofia
(Stanford, DT) 6'1" 326 5.19 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
28 Vince Oghobaase
(Duke, DT) 6'5" 303 5.47 27 1.88 3.15 26.0 90.0 -- 7.85 --
29 Abe Karoma
(Western Illinois, DT) 6'2" 315 5.00 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30 Jeff Fitzgerald
(Kansas State, DT) 6'3" 271 4.95 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
31 Cordarrow Thompson
(Virginia Tech, DT) 6'1" 302 5.19 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
32 Jaron Baston
(Missouri, DT) 6'0" 309 5.11 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
33 Nathan Pepper
(South Carolina, DT) 6'1" 300 5.10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
34 Mick Williams
(Pittsburgh, DT) 6'1" 280 4.93 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
35 Trey Bryant
(Baylor, DT) 6'2" 310 5.15 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
36 Todd Denlinger
(Ohio State, DT) 6'2" 292 5.25 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
37 Ricardo Mathews
(Cincinnati, DT) 6'1" 286 4.97 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
38 Garrett Brown
(Minnesota, DT) 6'1" 309 5.26 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
39 Malcolm Sheppard
(Arkansas, DT) 6'2" 285 5.19 19 1.79 2.99 28.0 100.0 4.77 7.80 --
40 Jake Ricks
(Auburn, DT) 5'2" 290 5.11 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
41 Jeff Stehle
(Wisconsin, DT) 6'4" 297 4.99 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
42 Sirod Williams
(Illinois, DT) 6'0" 296 5.21 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
43 Kyle Love
(Mississippi State, DT) 6'1" 310 5.10 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

So Drew is not out of line, I can see him falling to us, but also would not be surprised if he goes at 13 or so...

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

So Drew is not out of line, I can see him falling to us, but also would not be surprised if he goes at 13 or so...

OK but please don't tell me you could see him falling to a mid-round pick (85th) ?
BTW did you know DB used to work as an advisor to former NY Gov Pataki ?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

OK but please don't tell me you could see him falling to a mid-round pick (85th) ?
BTW did you know DB used to work as an advisor to former NY Gov Pataki ?

No i did not know that about Drew.

If Williams at at our pick at 20 we should look real hard at him if we think we need a NT.

But we can also grab Linval Joseph, Torrell Troup, Cam Thomas, Terrence Cody, Brandon Deaderick, Ekom Udofia, Boo Robinson if we want a NT.

Or Geno Atkins, Lamarr Houston, Jeff Owens, Tyson Alualu types if we want an undertackle (Okoye is supposed to be an undertackle).

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

If Williams at at our pick at 20 we should look real hard at him if we think we need a NT.

But we can also grab Linval Joseph, Torrell Troup, Cam Thomas, Terrence Cody, Brandon Deaderick, Ekom Udofia, Boo Robinson if we want a NT.

Or Geno Atkins, Lamarr Houston, Jeff Owens, Tyson Alualu types if we want an undertackle (Okoye is supposed to be an undertackle).

I say make your picks into the strength of the Draft and therefor I'd like to use our first 2 picks on a CB & DT, the corner position of course is a bigger need area and then use the 3rd rounder on a back. However I'm worried they might use one of their first 2 picks on a back, maybe even Mathews with the top pick.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I say make your picks into the strength of the Draft and therefor I'd like to use our first 2 picks on a CB & DT, the corner position of course is a bigger need area and then use the 3rd rounder on a back.

CB Patrick Robinson
DT Tyson Alualu
RB Anthony Dixon

Does that sound good? Cause that might be the best we can get.

[Roy P]

Another Mock where the CB/RB elude me until late

20 LB Sean Weatherspoon
51 OG John Jerry
81 DT Geno Atkins
118 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
150 CB Trevard Lindley
187 S Robert Johnson
197 RB Andre Anderson
227 CB Crezdon Butler

I'll have to get another RB in the UDFA pool. My first call will most likely go to Kentucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIYtg...eature=related

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...;pageContainer

03/18/2010 - NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: Alfonso Smith, RB, Kentucky: Smith ran for only 712 yards in his four years at Kentucky, but the 6-0, 211-pound senior put on a show for scouts at his pro day with 4.38 40, 36" vertical, 19 reps. That size and speed, along with his ability as a reciever and kick returner, will intrigue a team enough to at least make a call to his agent on Saturday afternoon to secure his services after the draft - if he's not picked up late. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Another Mock where the CB/RB elude me until late

20 LB Sean Weatherspoon
51 OG John Jerry
81 DT Geno Atkins
118 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
150 CB Trevard Lindley
187 S Robert Johnson
197 RB Andre Anderson
227 CB Crezdon Butler

I'll have to get another RB in the UDFA pool. My first call will most likely go to Kentucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIYtg...eature=related

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...;pageContainer

03/18/2010 - NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: Alfonso Smith, RB, Kentucky: Smith ran for only 712 yards in his four years at Kentucky, but the 6-0, 211-pound senior put on a show for scouts at his pro day with 4.38 40, 36" vertical, 19 reps. That size and speed, along with his ability as a reciever and kick returner, will intrigue a team enough to at least make a call to his agent on Saturday afternoon to secure his services after the draft - if he's not picked up late. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

On another board i go to, a Kentucky fan was asked about Smith, he said to not even waste a roster space on the guy, he is not an instinctive runner, and he does not play to his pro day time.

[Roy P]

I thought there's not much harm in taking a guy as an UDFA and putting him on the practice squad to see if he develops. I think I'm just going to take Ben Tate in the 2nd round regardless of who is on the board. Then just hope that I can get an OL in the 3rd round like Asamoah, Jerry, or Walton.

This may be how I'd like the draft to turn out based upon filling needs with the best available talent....according to Draft Tek's Player List

20 CB Kyle Wilson
51 RB Ben Tate
81 OG Jon Asamoah
118 NT Linval Joseph
150 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
187 3T Earl Mitchell
197 S Robert Johnson
227 CB Crezdon Butler

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

CB Patrick Robinson
DT Tyson Alualu
RB Anthony Dixon

Does that sound good? Cause that might be the best we can get.

I like it !
Are you becoming a Patrick Robinson fan ? I thought he was the best CB in the SB game, but that's my only opportunity to see him as I never saw any of his FSU games ? Apparently the big knock on him during his college career was that he was "inconsistant".
I love Alualu, but there's so many good 3-Tech DT guys in this Draft that seriously really might be there for us in the second round.
Tell you what and I digress here, but I almost wish we had not drafted Connor Barwin last year, because Brandon Graham may be the single player who I was most impressed with from SB week, game and practice.

[Roy P]

I am impressed with Brandon Graham, but I think he's a 3/4 OLB. If he played on the Texans, we'd need to play him at the SAM, and that's where we have Cushing. Barwin was a very good pick in the 2nd round and I expect that we can expect 6 - 9 sacks from him this season as he was just learning the position last year and at the NFL level. Barwin's advantage over Graham is that he has more arm length and height, so he doesn't have to play as wide outside the OT to get to the QB.

When it comes to the CBs in the draft, I've made it known that I like them all about the same. They all have weaknesses that they bring. When they say that Robinson was 'inconsistent' that is a nice way to say he loses his focus. I don't know if he has ADD or what, but there are times during the game it looks like he is hypnotized and isn't paying attention to what he's doing. At other times, he looks like Champ Bailey, so go figure.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Using the original Draftsite.com mock which appears to be updated to include recent trades, shows the Texans with:

1. 20: Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
2. 51: Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
3. 81: Dexter McCluster, RB, Ole Miss
4. 118: Mitch Petrus, OG, Arkansas
5. 150: Andre Roberts, WR, The Citadel
6. 187: Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech (fulfilling our Va Tech draft quota)
6. 197: Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky
7. 227: Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma St.

Since I've sworn to take Ben Tate at #51 regardless of who is available, this is what I got.

20 LB Sean Weatherspoon
51 RB Ben Tate
81 OG John Jerry
118 DT Lamarr Houston
150 CB Alterraun Verner
187 DT Earl Mitchell
197 S Robert Johnson
227 CB Crezdon Butler

I think I'm ready for the draft to start. I'm still waiting to see where Jason Campbell and Albert Haynesworth are traded. I think that the Jags will complete a trade with the Eagles so Phi can draft Earl Thomas to fill the void left behind from Brian Dawkins. The Jags can then select Tebow at #24.