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Old 04-11-2014, 12:05 AM
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The more things change....the more they stay the same.


6 OT GREG ROBINSON AUBURN
-My top guy and was able to garner more picks in the process

33 G XAVIER SU’A-FILO UCLA
-The O-Line should be set for whoever the QB is going to be

43 QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO EASTERN ILLINOIS
-Looks like I could have waited and gotten McCarron/Mettenberger combo late

65 DE TRENT MURPHY STANFORD
-Will play OLB like Vrabel

75 CB STANLEY JEAN- BAPTISTE NEBRASKA
-Decided to get a big CB

101 RB BISHOP SANKEY WASHINGTON
-I know we signed Andre Brown, but I still like this kid

103 QB ZACH METTENBERGER LSU
-New addition to my draftboard. Getting a lot of hype late after Pro-Day

113 TE C.J. FIEDOROWICZ IOWA
-Wanted a TE

135 WR BRUCE ELLINGTON SOUTH CAROLINA
-My KR specialist

141 DT CARAUN REID PRINCETON
-Will really be surprised if he lasts this long

153 CB DONTAE JOHNSON NORTH CAROLINA STATE
-Loading up on big CB/S Hybrids

177 TE CROCKETT GILMORE COLORADO STATE
-Got two TEs

181 ILB AVERY WILLIAMSON KENTUCKY
-Had to get a ILB and this guy is great value

211 S MARQUESTON HUFF WYOMING
-Another CB/S Hybrid

216 RB JERICK MCKINNON GEORGIA SOUTHERN
-Already drafted Sankey & Ellington, but he's too good to pass up here

256 WR KEVIN NORWOOD ALABAMA
-Could be the next M. Colsten (7th round value)
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Old 04-12-2014, 08:09 PM
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Okay...didn't panic and draft Garrappolo but got two QBs late. Waited for my Favorites like Murphy, Tripp, Sankey, until I couldn't wait any longer. I know we have signed FAs, but couldn't resist taking Bucannon. Very happy with my OLine and DLine.

7 OT GREG ROBINSON AUBURN

33 OT JOEL BITONIO NEVADA

47 S DEONE BUCANNON WASHINGTON STATE

65 DE TRENT MURPHY STANFORD

77 OLB JORDAN TRIPP MONTANA

101 RB BISHOP SANKEY WASHINGTON

111 QB ZACH METTENBERGER LSU

135 DE KAREEM MARTIN NORTH CAROLINA

141 QB A.J. MCCARRON ALABAMA

158 TE CROCKETT GILMORE COLORADO STATE

170 CB DONTAE JOHNSON NORTH CAROLINA STATE

177 RB JERICK MCKINNON GEORGIA SOUTHERN

181 S MARQUESTON HUFF WYOMING

211 ILB AVERY WILLIAMSON KENTUCKY

229 DT ZACK KERR DELAWARE

256 WR KEVIN NORWOOD ALABAMA
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:26 AM
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Two Mocks and offensive line choices with the first 2 picks in each one. You are for sure gonna get that OLine fixed aren't you Roy ?
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:43 AM
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Default 4-13-2014 "Clowney" draft

I took Clowney at 1-1 rather than the big trade down but did work a lesser trade down later.

In this mock, Bortles and Carr went early so Bridgewater and Manziel fell. The Browns snatched Bridgewater at #26 which let Manziel fall out of the first round. Here's where I made my deal. I offered Cleveland 2-3 and 3-19 for 2-1, 4-1 and 6-5 (the Schaub pick) so I could have an extra second day choice.

I knew the Browns and Redskins would pass on a quarterback so I still got Manziel with a marginal trade down:

1-1 Jadeveon Clowney DE-OLB, S. Carolina
2-3 (from CLE) Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
3-1 Christian Jones, ILB, Florida St.
3-19 (from CLE) Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee
4-35 (comp) Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington
5-1 Jon Halapio, OG, Florida
6-1 Chris Davis, CB-KR, Auburn
6-35 (comp) Isaiah Lewis, SS, Michigan St.
7-1 Kerry Hyder, DE-DT, Texas Tech
7-41 (comp) Carrington Byndum, CB, Texas

Got the best player in the draft, added the QB many of the locals wanted, added an ILB to team with Cushing, a RB who can spell Foster, two new pieces for the right side of the line, a tweener for the d-line and secondary/ST help. Did all of this without sacrificing the 1-1 pick.

Incidentally, Garropolo fell to the fifth round in this mock.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:52 AM
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Yes, I would like the OLine fixed. Whoever plays QB will benefit from the investment.

Garoppolo lasted until the 5th round? I would love that. Which database did you use, the updated Fanspeak, Optimum, or Walter?
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Old 04-13-2014, 12:30 PM
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Just for discussion,

I think OG need is on left, not right. And we have two OT on IR from last year draft. But ok, OL needs fixing though general thought is OL usually take 2-3 year to develop.

Lkely only need to draft one of Mettenberger or Mccarron. Again unless you want two three year development Projects. By time develop coaches could be gone.

And for me I could see drafting one but not two RB.

I would like more DT options. We lost noth NT we had last year to FA.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:24 PM
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Garoppolo lasted until the 5th round? I would love that. Which database did you use, the updated Fanspeak, Optimum, or Walter?
It was the updated Fanspeak. I'm not sure the other two get updated.

Nobody knows for sure how many teams are targeting a QB in the first round and how many have lined through Manziel over height or maturity issues.

It may be disinformation but I am hearing that Carr is impressing more and Bridgewater is impressing less so a Bortles, Carr, Bridgewater, Manziel draft board is possible although I still think it is unlikely.

Still, if Manziel is still there at 2-1 and the Texans announce a trade I can only imagine riots by the Aggie faithful. But I saw it as a perfect calculated chance to get another second-day pick for a small move down, knowing the Browns (who just took Bridgewater) and the Redskins (who already have RG3) were not picking a QB so I was able to get the extra third and still get the player I would have taken anyway.

I think there is a big drop-off in ILB after Skov, Borland and Jones so I grabbed Jones while he was still there and then postponed taking a RT since there were three left that could fit the need and 15 more picks to go.

Sankey was too good a value at 4-35 and there was no CB or OG that I could justify taking instead so the rest of the draft just sort of unfolded filling holes with an eye toward special teams value.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:35 PM
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Just for discussion,

I think OG need is on left, not right. And we have two OT on IR from last year draft. But ok, OL needs fixing though general thought is OL usually take 2-3 year to develop.

Lkely only need to draft one of Mettenberger or Mccarron. Again unless you want two three year development Projects. By time develop coaches could be gone.

And for me I could see drafting one but not two RB.

I would like more DT options. We lost noth NT we had last year to FA.
OTs can be moved to G easier than the other way. I have Quessenberry penciled in at one of the guards spots although he is listed as an OT on some depth charts. I want one of those blot-out-the-sun RTs now that we are probably dropping the zone blocking scheme. Put that fat Brooks next to that guy and try to run behind them.

I don't think Wade Smith has signed anywhere so he might eventually come back as a cheap 1-yr contract.

How the offense develops depends on who we take at QB.

I agree a DT is a good addition. We added one in free agency but we lost two. Unless he's expected to pass rush, you can find a useful tub of goo in 5-7 rounds.
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:34 PM
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There's rumors the Browns and Bags really like Carr. I'm the first to admit he has better arm strength for deep passes than Bridgewater. I think Teddy may be the one out of the four to drp into the second round.

If we don't resign Wade, I could see Quess playing LG and the Fat Brooks at RG. I'm drafting a RT and an OG to compete with those other two.

Sankey is my favorite RB, It's going to be hard to pass on him.

I'd like more DT options too. I like Kareem Martin or Will Clarke to play Antonio Smith. Not really seeing the typical NT I would draft early. I would take Caraun Reid because he can pass rush. My favorite Tub of Goo is Zack Kerr from Delaware.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:57 PM
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Default Fanspeak Walter Mock With Trades 4-17-14

It looks like Fanspeak has updated their Walter board and I did the trade down with Atlanta. I didn't get the sweetheart offer I sometimes get (1-1 for a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th) so I dealt 1-1 and 7-1 to Atlanta for 1-6, 2-5 and 3-4. Then I decided to go for more midround picks so I eventually traded 3-4 to San Francisco for 3-13 and 4-29. Then I took 6-1 and 6-5 and dealt them to Kansas City for 4-24.

That left me with the following:

1-6 (from ATL): Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
2-1 : Dee Ford, DE-OLB, Auburn
2-5 (from ATL): David Yankey, G-T, Stanford
3-1 : Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, E. Illinois
3-13 (from SF): Christian Jones, ILB, Florida St.
4-1: Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington
4-24 (from KC): E.J. Gaines, CB, Missouri
4-29 (from SF): Chris Smith, DE, Arkansas
4-35 (comp): Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
5-1: Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech
6-35 (comp): Jeff Janis, WR-KR, Saginaw Valley St.
7-41 (comp): Kerry Hyder, DT, Texas Tech

12 picks that give the OL a big boost, supplies a quick pass rusher in Ford, help for Cushing in the middle, d-line bodies in Smith, McCullers and Hyder and two CBs in Gaines and Exum. Plus, we added a QB with upside in Garoppolo, a backup tailback in Sankey and a blazing fast returner in Janis.

This draft really depends on whether Garoppolo is worth the hype but this supplies the parts to solve a lot of needs in a hurry.
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