DraftTek Mock

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

UDFA - Rudy Carpenter Arizona State.
Vet - Quinn Gray, do we take another look see?

Gray was ticked off when we did not trade Sage last year, and iirc he did not learn the plays, so Kubiak parted ways, I do not see Gray's actions as being endearing to Kubiak.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Gray was ticked off when we did not trade Sage last year, and iirc he did not learn the plays, so Kubiak parted ways, I do not see Gray's actions as being endearing to Kubiak.

Okay, well what about Oakland's Andrew Walter? They just signed Jeff Garcia so perhaps they let that guy walk?

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I got two trades going down, one is the very probable LZ trade with Tampa Bay(15th for the 19th and 81), the second is with Phili, the 19th for the 28th, 85, and 121. Phili has four picks in the fifth as well as their 2nd rounder and feels they can still add some decent depth their while adding the first round talent they covet.

The Texans feel this could be their year and know the value of this draft is in the middle rounds. They know their lack of depth accross the board has hurt them in the past and feel the best way to improve their team in a cost effective way is through the draft.

28. Clint Sintim OLB
46. Rashad Johnson FS
77. Rashad Jennings RB
81. Jonathan Casillas (as our SS)
85. Mike Mickens CB
112. Jason Williams OLB
121. Patrick Turner WR
122. Kyle Moore DE
152. Sebastion Vollmer OT
188. Corvey Irvin DT
223. Gantrell Johnson RB

I'm going to substitute Phili for the NY Giants(29th, 91, and 100) since there is a real possibility of us trading down twice in this draft.
From the 4/18 version.

29. Eric Woods C/OG
46. Fili Moala DT
77. Mike Mickens CB
81. Jason Williams OLB
91. Rashad Jennings RB
100. Ricky Jean-Francois DT/DE
112. Zack Follett OLB
122. Kyle Moore DE
152. Chris Clemons FS
188. Johnny Knox WR
223. Dallas Reynolds OL

UDFA Gartrell Johnson RB
UDFA Darrell Mack RB
UDFA Terence Moore FS/SS

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I'm going to substitute Phili for the NY Giants(29th, 91, and 100) since there is a real possibility of us trading down twice in this draft.
From the 4/18 version.

29. Eric Woods C/OG
46. Fili Moala DT
77. Mike Mickens CB
81. Jason Williams OLB
91. Rashad Jennings RB
100. Ricky Jean-Francois DT/DE
112. Zack Follett OLB
122. Kyle Moore DE
152. Chris Clemons FS
188. Johnny Knox WR
223. Dallas Reynolds OL

UDFA Gartrell Johnson RB
UDFA Darrell Mack RB
UDFA Terence Moore FS/SS

Going by my old trade value chart, we still need about 174 points to make the trade equitable. That's roughly pick #83 (third round) so the Giants would need to give us next year's 2nd round pick too. So, the only players I see them doing something like that for is Crabtree and maybe Maclin. Now, in the DraftTek Mock, they have Maclin going #15, so I'll play along...

29. RB Donald Brown Connecticut
46. S William Moore Missouri
77. S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
81. CB Asher Allen Georgia
91. LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
100. TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss
112. DT Corvey Irvin Georgia
122. LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
152. DT Roy Miller Texas
188. WR Demetrius Byrd LSU
223. OG Anthony Parker Tennessee

Now, all I've got to do is convince UDFA Pierre Walters to come to Houston to be my pass-rushing specialist.

edit - Now I see that you were talking about trading down twice with the Tampa Bay Bucs and then the Giants.

Edit #2 - Taking a global look (cherry picking) I could have gotten DE Cody Brown at #81, and then gotten Keenan Lewis at #100, instead of a TE playmaker.

[Blitzwood]

Roy,
Using http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php , I have a difference of 235 points(19=875 ; 29=640)
91=136 points
100=100 points

I'd be nice getting a second rounder next year, but I don't see mathematically getting a 2nd and 2 low 3rds for moving down 10 spots.

I like D.Brown but feel he's too similar to Slaton to be taken in the 1st round. I like your LB selections.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Roy,
Using http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php , I have a difference of 235 points(19=875 ; 29=640)
91=136 points
100=100 points

I'd be nice getting a second rounder next year, but I don't see mathematically getting a 2nd and 2 low 3rds for moving down 10 spots.

I like D.Brown but feel he's too similar to Slaton to be taken in the 1st round. I like your LB selections.

Yeah, I figured that out after I posted. I was thinking #29, #91, & #100 was for #15.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I'm going to substitute Phili for the NY Giants(29th, 91, and 100) since there is a real possibility of us trading down twice in this draft.
From the 4/18 version.

29. Eric Woods C/OG
46. Fili Moala DT
77. Mike Mickens CB
81. Jason Williams OLB
91. Rashad Jennings RB
100. Ricky Jean-Francois DT/DE
112. Zack Follett OLB
122. Kyle Moore DE
152. Chris Clemons FS
188. Johnny Knox WR
223. Dallas Reynolds OL

UDFA Gartrell Johnson RB
UDFA Darrell Mack RB
UDFA Terence Moore FS/SS

That's a big letdown of a draft in my opinion.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Roy,
Using http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php , I have a difference of 235 points(19=875 ; 29=640)
91=136 points
100=100 points

Just so we are clear. #15 for #19 & #81 from Tampa.

#19 for #29, #91, & #100 from NYG.

Essentially, #81 was the pick that I was missing in the transition between #15 and #29.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Tax day update 4/15

15. WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
46. S William Moore Missouri
77. S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
112. CB Keenan Lewis Oregon St
122. DT Corvey Irvin Georgia
152. TE John Phillips Virginia
188. RB Javarris Williams Tenn State
223. DE Victor Butler Oregon St

4/20 Update

15. WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
46. OC Eric Wood Louisville
77. S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
112. CB Keenan Lewis Oregon St
122. LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
152. DT Corvey Irvin Georgia
188. RB Javarris Williams Tenn State
223. OG Anthony Parker Tennessee

I almost went with Myron Pryor at #223, but since I had already drafted a DT in Irvin, I decided to address the RG. After much deliberations about the 2nd round pick, I've decided to go with my #1 OL because I've had success at getting Vaughn in the 3rd round to play SS. I must say that I'm happy to get an LB like Ellerbe in the 4th round now. I'm sure there will be plenty of heat if we draft offense with our first 2 picks, but hey, I'm all about BPA. Theoretically, I could have drafted William Moore to play FS before #68 (3rd round) if I'd been able to trade down in the 1st and select Clay Matthews.

[Nconroe]

I ran draftek simulator today and got little better
15. OLB Brian Cushing USC
46. SS William Moore Missouri
77. CB Kevin Barnes Maryland
112. RB Javon Ringer MichiganSt
122. OG Trvor Canfield Cincinnati
152. DE Matt Shaunnesy Wisconsin
188. DT Corey Irvin Georgia
223. FS DeAngeolo Willingham Tennessee

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

4/20 Update

15. WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
46. OC Eric Wood Louisville
77. S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
112. CB Keenan Lewis Oregon St
122. LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
152. DT Corvey Irvin Georgia
188. RB Javarris Williams Tenn State
223. OG Anthony Parker Tennessee
.

My final mock

15. WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
46. S William Moore Missouri
77. S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
112. CB Keenan Lewis Oregon St
122. LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
152. OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
188. TE John Phillips Virginia
223. DT Myron Pryor Kentucky

So, I'll be looking for a RB and a situational DE in free agency.

[painekiller]

Did one of these last night and in my tired state erased it before posting.

I want to first say if our draft falls like DraftTek has it, then we are in trouble.

My Cherry Picks no trades:

15 Donald Brown RBF Connecticut
46 Lawrence Sidbury Jr. OLB/DE 34 Richmond
77 Chip Vaughn SS Wake Forest
112 Sebastian Vollmer OT Houston
122 Kaluka Maiava OLB43 USC
152 Johnny Knox WRS Abilene Christian
188 Greg Toler CB St. Paul's
223 Ryan Purvis TE Boston College


What I think Texans do:
15 Rey Maualuga ILB USC
46 Andre Brown RBF North Carolina St
77 David Bruton FS Notre Dame
112 Tyrone McKenzie OLB43 South Florida
122 A.Q. Shipley OC Penn State
152 Jaimie Thomas OG Maryland
188 Dan Gronkowski TE Maryland
223 Graham Harrell QB Texas Tech