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I think barrett's point made many times years ago was and is valid - that BOB didn't want to commit himself to a rookie quarterback early in BOB's tenure with the team so he deliberately brought in second (at best) rate guys in order to get his sea legs. I do get the thinking behind that.
Although it's idiotic, of course, and any competently run organization would have a GM who would overrule that sort of foolishness and draft a freakng QB anyway. |
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Why would you rather have Cutler than Romo?
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It was a flip question. Roll with it.
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I'm not going to play 20 questions with ya, barrett but they did draft Savage during this time to develop and to be, at minimum, the #2.... One of (big) problems is, they haven't found their "win now" (#1) guy, yet. Once they find a good #1, whether that's a FA or through the draft, then they can start throwing draft picks at replacements every year. It's like, some people (not necessarily you) think every draft is full of Dak Prescotts and the Texans think every draft is full of Jared Goffs, i.e., non-plus types.... There is no resolve between those two schools of thought... |
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And as for the best option in the last 3 years I'll pass on Bridgewater. If we weren't afraid of our fans and bad PR we could have come away with the best young QB in the NFL and Jadaveon Clowney in the same draft. But we preferred a fat guard who can't play. It's so hard to find competent interior line play after all. |
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And as for hindsight, I think I've been very clear for years now that we should have been drafting QBs all along. Even among the choir of Brock applause last summer. |
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So, yep, one more time I will agree, the Texans long term QB plan sucks. But it's not like they haven't tried or your words "faked it". 72 mil is some serious faking.... Unlike the Pats, the Texans don't have the stability of a #1 (you listening?). At this point in time, they don't have the luxury to set up a draft/groom/you're-gonna-be-a-star, kid program but they can start right now with this draft. I doubt whoever is drafted though will be the opening day starter - it's probably going to be a FA or Tom Savage, IMO.... |
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Cost. Cutler is not under contract so it's just a straight money deal. I think he would come cheaper than Romo and is marginally more likely to make it through an entire season than Balsa Wood Romo.
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I disagreed with the way it was done from the beginning. I chose, however, to accept what was done instead of reaching for a thesaurus to find every negative word I could find to describe our quarterback play. I tried to be an optimist and remind people that there were positives (including a playoff win) with Osweiler at the helm.
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And yes, trying to sign existing unproven players is faking it at QB. You can get a castoff or a street FA, or a project at the other positions, but decent QBs don't hit the market unless health forces them to. So no, signing countless journeymen does not equal a plan. I will give to you that Brock was a sincere attempt even if it was idiotic and against the entire financial structure of the NFL. Somehow the approach got copied this year with Mike Glennon, so there are dumber front offices than us. |
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In 2014, they picked up Savage in the draft while Fitz was mostly the starter that year. 2015, no QB in the draft but they spent (wasted?) the year finding out what they had in Hoyer and Mallett. 2016 was spent finding out what Brock was all about. IMO, Savage was kinda the "groom" guy during this 3 year period. Weeden hops on board towards the end of 2015, sticks around for 2016 and one could make the case that he was a safer bet to keep on the roster than drafting some 3rd round rookie QB. Yet, during this parade of horrors, the Texans somehow go 9-7 all three years. Man, they could be really good with just an average QB.... So, what were we talking about again? Oh yeah, how the Texans suck at drafting QB's..... Include Schaub's "magical" 2013 and it's been a really painful four years of watching Texan QBs. I'm not sure I'll know how to react to competent QB play if I ever see it again... |
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Savage's groom year should have been in 2015. Instead, they IR'd him the full season for what amounted to a hangnail on the severity scale. Maybe Savage sucks. Maybe he's good. I have a feeling we'll never really know. When your franchise has sucked at QB for as long as the Texans have, you draft a QB at some point in the draft every year. Why not take a gamble that you might hit on a QB rather than a TE, K, S, etc? I thought they were idiots for not drafting McCarron as late as he went. They were idiots for not drafting Conner Cook, who, by the way, went to a team with a young star at QB. Maybe these guys suck. Maybe they're good. At least have them on your roster and see for yourself.
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Side note to this drafting a QB discussion... If the Texans plan on drafting a QB with their #1 pick and really like a guy who happens to be falling, say Trubisky or Watson, they should trade up a few picks to get him. IMO, pick #25 is a prime area where someone (Browns, Chiefs or Steelers, maybe?) will jump over us to grab him. There are 3 or 4 teams in front of us that I could see trading their pick and moving back a few slots. I'd even try to jump the Giants at #23 with Eli getting up in age. Maybe try to work a deal with Miami at #22 or Detroit at #21. #19 to #22 seems to be a sweet spot for the right deal. #16 and #17 look workable too but will likely be too costly.
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Been awful quiet on Kirby, lately... |
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So yeah, if there is a QB the Texans have their eye on, they probably will have to at least consider some maneuvers to get him. Will it be a "value" pick then? Probably not, but the team can only blame themselves for getting into this mess. |
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And there's your catch 22 as the most plausible way to move up in the first round is to give up your second rounder and we also need to get an offensive lineman before the third round.
If Watson is falling, it makes sense to go get him. Otherwise, I'd prefer to draft a LT then wait for round two and trade up if needed for Webb or Mahomes. |
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Jeff Darlington tweet per CBS Sports now reporting that, according to Romo, it's Houston or retirement.
Texans seem resolute to wait out the Cowboys and probably wait for a June 1st release then sign Romo. Dallas still hoping they can trick Houston into giving up draft picks. The Broncos, it is said, have not closed the door on Romo but are not actively pursuing him either. Of course, Dallas may decide that they can keep Romo since Dak Prescott is still under a rookie contract but releasing him and getting the cap savings makes more long-term sense. But then Romo can retire and get the Fox gig he's been promised if he takes the offer rather than be a backup. Frankly, for $21 mil or whatever it is, I would be happy being a backup - but that's just me. |
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I think I could be persuaded to keep that gig also.
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Apparently, CBS is now also wooing Romo for an analyst job, not just Fox.
I think the Texans are still going to commit a high draft pick to a QB, Romo or no Romo but it they *know* they can sign Romo (or if they tire of waiting and sign Cutler or Kaepernick) then QB doesn't have to be their #1 need. BTW, I'm seeing several mocks now that have Notre Dame's Deshone Kiser falling to us at 25 if we want him. Some of these mocks are also showing Kiser being passed over for Mahomes. |
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