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11-17-2013, 03:32 PM
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Wow, Angry Dre just walks out after having words for Schaub.
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11-17-2013, 03:46 PM
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11-17-2013, 04:49 PM
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"Healthy" Schaub had his chance to redeem himself and, had the Raiders had better hands, there were probably three picks.
This was Keenum's worst game of the four and his OL just keeps folding in front of him like a cheap suit. Hard to blame him. Schaub proved he wasn't any better with the same cast instead of with Foster, OD, etc. Still, you have to blame the play-calling most. When it was 3rd-and-1 inside the 10 near the end of the game, I told the out-of-towner sitting next to me at the bar "They're going to run to the left and they're going to get stuffed." This is what indeed happened and the guy said "how did you know?" I said "It's the only play Kubiak has called in that situation ALL YEAR. The entire free world knows he's going to run that play which is why it gets stuffed. You've pretty well hit bottom when you lose to Matt McGloin. He wasn't even good at Penn State. I'm shocked he's even on an NFL roster. We MUST draft Matthews from A&M this fall. We MUST fix the right side of the line. We can't continue with the talentless lugs we have there. They are killing the entire offense.
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#93
11-17-2013, 06:19 PM
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Keenum over schaub is a no brainer but there is reason to doubt the decision maker has a brain.
As for the OL, they are bad, but Keenum has been terrible against the blitz in every game he has played. Maybe Case is the QB and maybe he isn't. Maybe he progresses in the remaining games in a way that shows he is. But today QB is a FAR bigger need than RT. Try naming the best RTs in the league. Look at what the best teams in the NFL have invested at RT. Drafting Matthews high in round 1 with big money committed to brown would be idiotic.
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#94
11-17-2013, 07:44 PM
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The Texans' irresponsible drafting and player management is going to be exposed in a serious way very soon. The team has so many needs that it will be impossible to address even a real percentage of them. They'll return one productive DL, their LBs are a horrible. The one guy who's any good can't stay on the field. They have a terrible pair of OLBs for a 3-4 team. Their secondary could and should be improved all across the board. And that's just the defense.
Tate will walk and no one knows if Arian can stay healthy so a RB is a must. Their OL blows and I don't think they'll be able to keep Wade Smith so you're looking at needing two or three starting OL. And then the most important position on the team is still a near total unknown. I like Case and I think he can play but a new coach (I'll assume just for the hell of it that Kubiak will be fired) will surely not want to go into his first year with Case at QB. Basically the entire franchise is a total disaster and a league-wide joke.
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11-17-2013, 08:05 PM
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Kubiak just couldn't wait to go back to his boy. You could see it a mile away just based on his presser in the beginning of the week. Schaub has royally sucked for almost a full year now and Kubiak sticks with him throughout. Keenum has a few bad quarters (with his OL sucking rotten eggs, but while the team is still in the game) and he gets yanked. I am so sick of Kubiak and McNair it makes me want to spit nails.
Man, two wildcard wins against a crap Bengals team. What a ride it's been!!! You should be proud McNair!! Maybe in another 10 years you'll reach Uncle Drayton territory in Houston lore.
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#96
11-17-2013, 09:31 PM
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Not Case Keenum's best game.... but nothing different from what more established players have at times.... Go check Kaepernick/Dalton/Romo/Flacco, etc. stats/box scores over the course of a season.....
---------------------------- I agree that Kubes was looking for the right opportunity to get his boy in the game.... ---------------------------- Don't get the horniness to draft a QB with the Texans first pick I see on some of the messageboards.... I can respect it but I don't agree with it. I'd rather have a can't miss LB or OL..... The prospect of ending up with the next Geno Smith doesn't really do it for me..... Did we not learn anything from 2002?
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#97
11-17-2013, 11:18 PM
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The Texans were almost snakebit this year. They aren't that bad a team but need to upgrade some areas and probably change coaches because the ones they have now clearly can't get the team beyond a certain level. Look how quickly the Chiefs turned it around in one year. Some snakebit team has that happen every year. This year, the Texans and Falcons both disintegrated but they'll be back next year. Back to the playoffs? Maybe, maybe not. But the Texans will be back next year, especially if they have the nerve to make some big changes.
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#98
11-18-2013, 12:42 AM
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And I'll tell you honestly that your complete misreading of the respective state of each franchise really does surprise me because I know you at one time spent a great deal of time with the Astros and I assumed you still do. The Astros have had an historically bad three year stretch. We all know that. But if you talk with anyone in professional baseball the unanimous consensus is that the team is growing from the bottom up in an impressively powerful way, and no one expects the team to be the league doormat for much longer. Me, I don't give a fck because I can't and won't root for an American League team. I do watch the Astros closely, though, and I follow professional baseball closely. The Astros have been terrible, yes, but they are far from a league-wide joke. Most baseball people are in near awe of what Luhnow has done building up the farm and stockpiling promising arms. How do you not know this? (I fully expect Crane to pull the rug out in three or four years but that's a conversation for another day.) The Texans, on the other hand, have an owner that no one in football respects, have a head coach that will never be a head coach for another team and a general manager who will never again be a general manager. They can rely on AJ, Watt, Duane Brown. And Myers. Let's make it an even four. Every other player either sucks or won't be back or both or is an injury liability. That's it, dude. Do you want to look at who started for the Texans today and tell me that a quick turnaround is in the works? They could hire Vince Lombardi and this team would suck for another three years. They are two and eight. This is a two and eight team. They are a disgrace and a joke. Snakebit my ass. You are right, though, that there are miles of difference between the Astros and the Texans. One team is ascendant and the other is mired in ammonia-reeking wet Rodeo shit.
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#99
11-18-2013, 07:43 AM
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Now I don't know that much about baseball, but I do understand that the Astros are on the rise, but when an organization is rock-bottom that's usually the only way to go. Haven't they had like 2 consecutive 100-loss seasons which is pretty much in the rock-bottom category while the Texans have had 2 consecutive PO seasons ? Now this season is surprising and certainly very disappointing and not just because of the miserable 2-8 record, but it's far too soon to know if this will be a new path for even the near term or just a single-season aberration.
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#100
11-18-2013, 07:58 AM
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***** Ben Tate is an Auburn guy, so he knows something about what "real" fans are, and I'm inclined to agree with him. I know one thing, when I've gone to games at Reliant I'm always surprised to see so many people wait until after KO to come into the stadium, and then wonder what they are thinking when they yell their azzes off when the Texans are on offense just as they do when the D is on the field. Many local fans are certainly uninformed, atleast the ones who attend the games and that's what Tate was talking about. And many cheered loudly when Matt Schaub was hurt a couple weeks ago, well that was pathetic because Schaub has been responsible for some big wins at Reliant in recent years and also along with his wife has been a solid citizen with his time and money re charitable giving here in Houston.
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