2015 Mocks

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by chuck

Vandermeer had a mock up that I didn't hate.

First Round – Trae Waynes, CB Michigan State

Second Round – Denzel Perryman, ILB Miami

Third Round – Donovan Smith, OT Penn State

Fourth Round – Bryce Petty, QB Baylor

Fifth Round – Deontay Greenberry, WR Houston

Sixth Round – Jean Sifrin, TE UMass

Seventh Round – Malcolm Brown, RB Texas

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...d-41c6dffbfac6

Really early to do a lot of round-projecting but I think many on this list will be gone by the time we're on the clock. Waynes is a good call but I've seen Perryman listed as a first-rounder, Petty as a third-rounder and Greenberry as a fourth so it looks great if you can grab them the middle of the next round. That's what I hate about cherry-picking with no context.

[chuck]

Maybe that's why I didn't hate it, because it's unreasonably optimistic.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by chuck

Vandermeer had a mock up that I didn't hate.

First Round – Trae Waynes, CB Michigan State

Second Round – Denzel Perryman, ILB Miami

Third Round – Donovan Smith, OT Penn State

Fourth Round – Bryce Petty, QB Baylor

Fifth Round – Deontay Greenberry, WR Houston

Sixth Round – Jean Sifrin, TE UMass

Seventh Round – Malcolm Brown, RB Texas

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...d-41c6dffbfac6

I would have to agree, that is not half bad.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Really early to do a lot of round-projecting but I think many on this list will be gone by the time we're on the clock. Waynes is a good call but I've seen Perryman listed as a first-rounder, Petty as a third-rounder and Greenberry as a fourth so it looks great if you can grab them the middle of the next round. That's what I hate about cherry-picking with no context.

I would agree that it's early, but currently cbssports has Perryman at 54, Petty at 117, Greenberry at 160. And the Texans picks currently are 51, 113, and 144.

As you have pointed out there is no consensus on these guys and where that stack up, but there are some list that would make these picks possible.

[Nconroe]

Texans have their weekly survey of 28 draft sites up
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...c-4caba8b424d0

Pick breakdown

CB: 7 (25%)
OT: 6 (21%)
LB: 4 (14%)
S: 4 (14%)
DL: 3 (11%)
RB: 2 (7%)
WR & TE each with 1 apiece for 4% each

Texans included a nice video from combine of Trae Waynes running 40 in 4.35 who was picked by six of seven drafters picking a CB.

There is also a video analyzing team needs which quotes O'Brien to McClain answering QB, WR, secondary, line backers.

Of course that list of needs makes sense when you look at Texans top seven FA , who could be gone if not signed by March 10, next week.
◾ Kareem Jackson, CB
◾ Brooks Reed, OLB
◾ Ryan Pickett, DT
◾ Danieal Manning, S
◾ Kendrick Lewis, S
◾ Ryan Mallett, QB
◾ Derek Newton, OT

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Texans have their weekly survey of 28 draft sites up
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...c-4caba8b424d0

Pick breakdown

WR & TE each with 1 apiece for 4% each

I bet that percent goes up next week.

[HPF Bob]

I'd like to see us trade down unless somebody jumps out at #16. The mocks I look at, we could go down to 22-24, pick up another second day pick and add another contributor.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I'd like to see us trade down unless somebody jumps out at #16. The mocks I look at, we could go down to 22-24, pick up another second day pick and add another contributor.

That's not a bad idea

[Roy P]

I did a mock draft on Fanspeak.com with the intention of taking CB Kevin Johnson TE Clive Warford and WR Tyler Lockett in the first three rounds. Instead it played out like this :
16 WR Amari Cooper
51 TE Maxx Williams
82 CB Byron Jones
113 QB Bryce Petty
144 RT Rob Havenstein
179 LG Mitch Morse
210 FS Damorious Randall
I wanted a ILB & DT and perhaps an OLB, but really couldn't complain about the results.

[painekiller]

Just got a new Mock from DraftTek

16 Malcom Brown Texas DT34 6'4" 320
51 Devin Smith Ohio St WRF 6'1" 197
82 Duke Johnson Miami (FL) RBF 5'9" 207
113 Charles Gaines Louisville CB 5'11" 175
144 Ben Heeney Kansas ILB 6'0" 231
179 Deion Barnes Penn St DE34 6'4" 245
210 Chris Conley Georgia WRF 6'2" 213

[Roy P]

I would have to take Preston Smith instead of Duke Johnson. But I like the players.

[Blitzwood]

Just read some of the best news.
BOB interviewed Chris Conley for an hour at UGA proday.
He's a kid I'm REALLY hoping we draft this year, and a perfect compliment to Hopkins. Is projected to go in the 4-5 round, but may go sooner after is ridiculous combine.


http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texa...h-chris-conley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmPVipftmes

[HPF Bob]

Most of the mocks now have us taking a WR in the first round - mostly Devante Parker or Jaelen Strong with one (Rob Rang) thinking we'll be the ones to believe in Dorial Green-Beckham.

I don't think DG-B is a possibility but I have been doing at least one mock a day at Fanspeak and it is interesting how often somebody falls at #16 you didn't expect and that trade-down possibilties are there. With all the trading frenzy that happened in free agency, some draft-day trades also seem very likely. Could the Texans be one?

Would the Browns (at 19) or the Eagles (at 20) be in the mood to deal?

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Just read some of the best news.
BOB interviewed Chris Conley for an hour at UGA proday.
He's a kid I'm REALLY hoping we draft this year, and a perfect compliment to Hopkins. Is projected to go in the 4-5 round, but may go sooner after is ridiculous combine.


http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texa...h-chris-conley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmPVipftmes

Cool stuff... He sounds like a good athlete....

I wonder if Obie spoke with that Gurly fella while he was there....

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Just read some of the best news.
BOB interviewed Chris Conley for an hour at UGA proday.
He's a kid I'm REALLY hoping we draft this year, and a perfect compliment to Hopkins. Is projected to go in the 4-5 round, but may go sooner after is ridiculous combine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmPVipftmes

Conley is a sub 4.4 40 guy and that's the kind of speed we need to compliment Hops who's not that kind of burner. Forget about the 4-5 range, and after this kids pro day there's no telling how high he' gonna go. Wonder if O'Brien really likes him that much, or if it's some kind of decoy or diversion to make that big show about visiting him personally at his PD ?

[Roy P]

I have been doing at least one mock a day at Fanspeak and it is interesting how often somebody falls at #16 you didn't expect and that trade-down possibilties are there. With all the trading frenzy that happened in free agency, some draft-day trades also seem very likely.
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I have drafted Amari Cooper and Kevin White. As well as Bud Dupree and Randy Gregory. Even Shane Ray could fall after his Pro Day.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I have drafted Amari Cooper and Kevin White. As well as Bud Dupree and Randy Gregory. Even Shane Ray could fall after his Pro Day.

I have either done the same or had the opportunity. My eyes popped when it was Gregory. As much as I wanted to draft a WR in the first, I chose Gregory. I've seen him go as early as #3 in some mocks. Imagine if we could throw him, Watt, Wilfork, Cushing and a healthy Clowney at teams?

Here's a fairly representative sample. Keep in mind that this is before the comp picks are announced and without much study of lower-round prospects. When it got to 16, Devante Parker was available but there were also some good defensive players and Jaelen Strong was still on the board so I traded down with Cincinnati to #21 and acquired their third-rounder, thinking I still had Strong if I lost out on Parker. Instead, Parker was still there.

#21 - (from CIN) Devante Parker, WR, Louisville
#51 - Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson
#82 - Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon (if Myers isn't re-signed, we need a C behind Ben Jones)
#85 - (from CIN) Jesse James, TE, Penn St. (for O'Brien)
#113 - Chris Hackett, S, TCU
#144 - Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (since he's still there and we publicly courted him)
#179 - Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (fell off a bit as a senior but has NFL talent)
#210 - Chucky Hunter, DT, TCU

I have my doubts about Conley but the others could realistically be there at that point of the draft.

[Roy P]

I am a bit skeptical of some of the draft boards that I am seeing them use. If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Yet it is nice to see some of the possibilities. I also use it to verify when I like a player too much and draft them in the 3rd round and see them consistently being drafted in the 5th or 6th round if I pass on them. I have used four different draft boards and these are some of the permutations :

1st round - Amari Cooper, Bud Dupree, Jaelen Strong, Kevin White
2nd round - Clive Walford, Laken Tomlinson, Preston Smith, Kevin Johnson
3rd round - Henry Anderson, Ali Marpet, Philip Dorsett, Xavier Cooper
4th round - Anthony Chickillo, Donovan Smith, Eric Rowe, Steven Nelson
5th round - Bryce Petty, Jesse James, Ben Heeney, Kwon Alexander
6th round - David Johnson, Derrick Lott, Tre McBride, Damarious Randall
7th round - Jake Ryan, Xavier Williams, Mitch Morse, Shane Carden

[Roy P]

As I was saying....I have a hard time buying some of the "information" I have read. So, I decided to throw my hat in the ring and create my own mock draft.

1 TB DT Leonard Williams
2 Tenn DE Dante Fowler
3 Jax DE Vic Beasley
4 Oak OLB Randy Gregory
5 Wash QB Jameis Winston
6 NYJ OLB Shane Ray
7 Chi CB Trae Waynes
8 Atl DE Bud Dupree
9 NYG S Landon Collins
10 StL WR Kevin White
11 Minn OT La'el Collins
12 Cle WR Amari Cooper
13 NO DT Malcolm Brown
14 Mia OT Ereck Flowers
15 SF OG Brandon Scherff
16 Hou WR Devante Parker
17 SD QB Marcus Mariota
18 KC OC Cameron Erving
19 Cle DT Danny Shelton
20 Phi DE Preston Smith
21 Cin WR Jaelen Strong
22 Pitt DE Arik Armstead
23 Det OT TJ Clemmings
24 Az RB Melvin Gordon
25 Car OT Andrus Peat
26 Bal RB Todd Gurley
27 Dal DT Jordan Phillips
28 Den LB Eric Kendricks
29 Ind OLB Eli Harold
30 GB DT Eddie Goldman
31 NO CB Jalen Collins
32 NE CB Kevin Johnson

Winston has too much documented off-field issues and Lovey is a Defensive Coach. He can't pass on the "Next Warren Sapp" in Tampa Bay. The Redskins can still trade RGIII since Coach Gruden doesn't seem to appreciate him. Phil Rivers is pressing his luck in SD, so the Chargers buy insurance that falls in their laps. Two RBs in the first round?!?!

[HPF Bob]

I can't believe Mariota falls to 17. Surely the Jets draft him if nobody else will. If we're at 16 and Mariota is still on the board, we're going to get some great offers to trade down, particularly from Philly.