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Old 09-26-2012, 11:36 PM
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32 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6' 3" 205
62 Mike Glennon QB North Carolina State 6' 6" 225
94 Zach Martin OT Notre Dame 6' 4" 280
126 Marcus Sales WR Syracuse 6' 0" 177
158 Dan Conroy K Michigan State 5' 10" 190

Wow, two WR a year after taking two WRs? Again they have no clue of our current roster. A QB in the 2nd and a K in the 5th? NO way this is even close. I did like where they have us picking.

My mock:
32 Xavier Rhodes* CB Florida State 6' 1" 209
62 Nico Johnson ILB Alabama 6' 3" 238
94 Shayne Skov ILB Stanford 6' 3" 242
126 Jordan Hill DT Penn State 6' 1" 297
158 *Joseph Randle RB Oklahoma State 6'0" 200

A CB to push Jackson and for depth, two ILB gives you instant depth and one should push the old man out of town, this is a deep year for ILBs, Hill low to the ground DT, and a RB if you want to let Tate go or are thinking of trading him at the draft.

BTW I would not be against a WR like Williams, but we don't need two WR in this next draft.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:58 AM
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So, how is it we get the 32nd pick?
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:04 AM
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So, how is it we get the 32nd pick?
Probably traded down with the Patriots

But, seriously, two WRs and a PK is nuts however they knew us well enough to have us take a QB from the ACC...
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:48 PM
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32 Robert Woods* WR USC 6' 1" 185
62 Denard Robinson QB Michigan 6' 0" 185
94 Micah Hyde CB Iowa 6' 1" 185
126 Cornellius Carradine DE Florida State 6' 5" 265
158 Xavier Nixon OT Florida 6' 5" 300
190 Dyrell Roberts WR Virginia Tech 6' 1" 196

Again no way they take two WR, and give me a break, Robinson is not a QB in the NFL, maybe the CFL, but not the NFL, so that is 3 WR?

My cherry pick, and agian, I am not opposed to one WR.

32 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6' 3" 205
62 Desmond Trufant CB Washington 6' 0" 172
94 Shayne Skov ILB Stanford 6' 3" 242
126 Jordan Hill DT Penn State 6' 1" 297
158 Tanner Brock ILB TCU 6' 3" 246
190 John Boyett FS Oregon rSr 5-10 205
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:17 PM
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32 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6' 3" 205
62 Desmond Trufant CB Washington 6' 0" 172
94 Shayne Skov ILB Stanford 6' 3" 242
126 Jordan Hill DT Penn State 6' 1" 297
PK, those first four picks are a great draft, IMO. Probably too good as in "won't be there in real life".
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:31 PM
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PK, those first four picks are a great draft, IMO. Probably too good as in "won't be there in real life".
Yes it would be, and that is passing up on two guys I love for our 3-4 Okafor and Jeffcoat in the 1st.

And I agree, as we get closer to the actual draft, guys will climb and some of the QBs near the top will drop.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:42 PM
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Boredom on a Saturday night leads to another Mock. I'm going to use CBS Sports.com 's list of top players. I will not use a pick number due to the fact that I am adding in estimated supplemental picks. (3rd for Mario, 5th for Brisiel, and a 7th for Allen).

1st Alex Okafor DE Texas Sr 6-5 265
2nd Shayne Skov ILB Stanford Sr 6-3 242 This is a more realistic place for him
3rd Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia rSr 6-0 210
3 Sup Desmond Trufant CB Washington Sr 6-0 186
4th Joseph Randle RB Oklahoma State Jr 6-0 200
5th Anthony Rashad White DT Michigan State Sr 6-2 330
5 Sup Jonathan Bostic ILB Florida Sr 6-1 246
6th Xavier Nixon OT Florida Sr 6-5 314
7th Lucas Reed TE New Mexico rSr 6-5 250
7 sup Ryan Allen P Louisiana Tech rSr 6-2 215

Very few of these guys are going to have roster spots. This team is young and deep, so any pick after the 3rd or 4th rounds will have to play very well in order to get a roster spot.

If Barwin continues to play with no sacks, he could be in for a low ball offer and possibly be allowed to walk. Thus my 1st pick. We need ILB help and depth. With Rambo's suspension due to a failed drug test, would the Texans look at him, a lot of weight would have to be given to the interview and college coaches reviews of him. They did give Braman and Posey chances. Trufant is a solid pick in the late 3rd. And if a back like Randle is available in the 4th you jump up to hand in your card on draft day. The guys after that are just filling up training camp spots on this team.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:42 AM
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Free Agency is the wild card right now in how many and which position groups might be tarrgeted, seems we will have about 8 FA who will want to be paid, just like this year.. Hopefully we can hold on to most of them.

Are there any tall , say 6'3" DBs to help coveer tall WR and TE, similar to what Seattle has done?

Sounds about right on compensatory picks.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:40 PM
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Are there any tall , say 6'3" DBs to help coveer tall WR and TE, similar to what Seattle has done?
Not where we are projecting to pick. 6'1" guys are available throughout the draft, 6'3" is a different animal.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:59 PM
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Wonder if they'd take a chance somewhere in draft on


Ray Ray Armstrong, S, Faulkner University
Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Projected Round (2013): 4-6.

He was doing well at Miami then decided to be a dunce and meet with marketers.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:29 PM
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Wonder if they'd take a chance somewhere in draft on


Ray Ray Armstrong, S, Faulkner University
Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Projected Round (2013): 4-6.

He was doing well at Miami then decided to be a dunce and meet with marketers.
He is not on the team at Faulkner from what I can see. Not sure how the Texans would view him.

Ray-Ray Armstrong declared ineligible by NAIA
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By Michael Casagrande Sun Sentinel

5:15 p.m. EDT, September 12, 2012

Update 5:14 p.m. Wednesday: The next move for Ray-Ray Armstrong is still unknown at this point.

Faulkner University spokesman Doug Amos said he "gets the impression" Armstrong will stay at the small school in Montgomery, Ala. after spending the last month there.

He would still be eligible to practice with the team. The NAIA's ruling only barred him from competition. About five or six NFL scouts had already been to town to watch him practice.

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The college football career of former Miami safety Ray-Ray Armstrong appears to be over.

The NAIA officially declared the Sanford, Fla., product ineligible Tuesday after nearly a month's wait. Armstrong had been attending Faulkner University in Montgomery, Ala., after being kicked off the Miami team in late July.

According to a news release from Faulkner, the NAIA did not grant Armstrong his senior season because UM had declared him ineligible for NCAA competition.

The NAIA rule book has a stated policy on the matter:

“Any student who has completed eligibility or who has been permanently banned in a given sport at any four-year institution, either NAIA-affiliated or other, shall have no eligibility remaining in that sport within the NAIA," the rule book reads. "Such a student cannot regain eligibility in that sport at an NAIA institution.”

According to Faulkner, Miami tried to get Armstrong reinstated so he could play at the new school, but the NCAA ruled UM did not have that authority.

“We’re disappointed in the ruling, obviously,” Faulkner athletics director and head football coach Brent Barker said in the news release. “We respect the great job the NAIA Eligibility Center does for our student-athletes, but we thought Ray Ray’s situation was unique and unprecedented, and deserved a positive ruling.

"I most of all hate it for him, because he has fit in so well on our campus with our student body and has really been a leader in our locker room with a lot of our younger players."

Armstrong was dismissed from the Hurricanes on July 18 after a suspension-plagued junior season. Armstrong was allegedly dishonest with the school during an internal investigation.

Lawyers representing Armstrong threatened to sue Miami for reinstatement to the program before deciding to enroll at Faulkner.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:21 PM
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32 Jesse Williams DT Alabama 6' 4" 320
62 Denard Robinson QB Michigan 6' 0" 185
94 DeVonte Holloman S South Carolina 6' 2" 226
126 Nick Florence QB Baylor 6' 1" 205
158 Xavier Nixon OT Florida 6' 5" 300
190 Dyrell Roberts WR Virginia Tech 6' 1" 196

I can live with the 1st pick, but I wish they would watch a Texans game before setting our needs list.

32 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6' 3" 205
62 Kevin Minter ILB LSU 6-1 245
94 Shayne Skov ILB Stanford 6' 3" 242
126 Jordan Hill DT Penn State 6' 1" 297
158 Quinn Sharp PT Oklahoma State 6' 1" 194
190 Best RB on the board.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:24 PM
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32 Jesse Williams DT Alabama 6' 4" 320
62 Denard Robinson QB Michigan 6' 0" 185
94 DeVonte Holloman S South Carolina 6' 2" 226
126 Nick Florence QB Baylor 6' 1" 205
158 Xavier Nixon OT Florida 6' 5" 300
190 Dyrell Roberts WR Virginia Tech 6' 1" 196

I can live with the 1st pick, but I wish they would watch a Texans game before setting our needs list.
No doubt. Not 1....but 2 QB's after locking Schaub up for a multi-year deal? Um....OK.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:40 AM
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No doubt. Not 1....but 2 QB's after locking Schaub up for a multi-year deal? Um....OK.
To be fair, I think most people are picking Robinson to be a WR. Not a QB.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:31 AM
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So are we expecting to get a comp pick, maybe a 3rd rounder, for Mario in next years Draft ?
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:43 AM
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So are we expecting to get a comp pick, maybe a 3rd rounder, for Mario in next years Draft ?
I could never figure out their formula. All I know is that good teams like the Patriots, Colts and Steelers always managed to get a boatload of comp picks and my teams never got any.

I'm sure we'll get something for Mario (and Briesel) but wouldn't want to speculate on exactly what. There's never been a comp pick higher than the end of the third and the picks cannot be traded unlike the team's own picks.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:35 AM
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So are we expecting to get a comp pick, maybe a 3rd rounder, for Mario in next years Draft ?
Gonna be tough with his lack of production. Like Bob said, it is a stupid formula, but I believe production is a factor. We'll get something, but unless he picks up the pace, don't think it will be a 3rd.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:37 AM
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So are we expecting to get a comp pick, maybe a 3rd rounder, for Mario in next years Draft ?
I'm going to be super ticked if we don't get at least a #3 out of Mario. The NFL throws around these picks like they're nothing and I've seen teams get decent picks for far less when compared to Mario's supposed 'value'. I thought we got screwed on DRob's sup pick.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:30 AM
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IIRC, the size of the contract counts more than the player's production. The fact the Bills spent a bunch of money (and Mario is complaining he is injured but the Bills won't put him on the injury report) on him probably is the key factor. Plus it subtracts the FAs the Texans signed.

I think a third is appropriate but the formula could come up with two 4ths or two 5ths instead.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:11 PM
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IIRC, the size of the contract counts more than the player's production. The fact the Bills spent a bunch of money (and Mario is complaining he is injured but the Bills won't put him on the injury report) on him probably is the key factor. Plus it subtracts the FAs the Texans signed.

I think a third is appropriate but the formula could come up with two 4ths or two 5ths instead.
I am thinking we are going to get a 3rd for Mario, a 5th for Briesel and a 7th for Allen. It is based on the contract, if the guy is considered an A, B, or C level FA which if I understand correctly has to do with being a starter a rotational guy or a backup.

The signing of James will be factored into the equation.

Also we get nothing for Winston who was a salary cap cut.
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