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Old 04-29-2016, 02:36 AM
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Default Official 2016 NFL Draft - Round 2 & 3 Thread

So the Texans found a much needed pass catcher in the first round. What are they looking for on Day 2? Some help on the OL and DL? Perhaps a TE? Who's the best available?

Texans start the day with pick #52 overall in the second round and pick #85 overall in the third round.
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:03 AM
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1st round talent still available:
WR Michael Thomas Ohio St
NT Jarran Reed Alabama
DE Bronson Kaufusi BYU
WR Sterling Shepard Oklahoma
DE Kevin Dodd Clemson
DE Carl Nassib Penn St
OT Jason Spriggs Indiana
NT A'Shawn Robinson Alabama

Players I gave a 2nd round grade:
RB Kenneth Dixon La Tech
RB Derrick Henry Alabama
TE Hunter Henry Arkansas
TE Austin Hooper Stanford
TE Nick Vannett Ohio St
LBO Shilique Calhoun Michigan St
NT Maliek Collins Nebraska
NT Javon Hargrave S.Carolina St.
NT Hassan Ridgeway Texas
S Sean Davis Maryland

Jason Spriggs intriguing me.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:49 AM
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DE Bronson Kaufusi BYU 6' 6" 285 1.69 4.87 7.03 4.25 30" 9' 3" 25 9 3/4" 34 1/2"
DE Kevin Dodd Clemson 6' 5" 277 1.69 4.86 7.18 4.44 30.5" 9'2" DNP 10" 34"
DE Carl Nassib Penn St 6' 6 7/8" 277 1.62 4.84 7.27 4.37 28.5" 9' 6" 21 10 3/8" 34 1/2"

I don't need a WR now that Fuller is on board. I see plenty of 300lbs DTs who can be groomed to replace Wilfork. I can get a TE in the 3rd or 4th. There are only 3 players who can provide some pass rush from the DE position that Crick's departure demands to be filled.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:16 AM
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My next 3 rounds....
52: R2P21 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
85: R3P22 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
119: R4P21 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA

Being able to select M. Collins in the 4th round allows me to pass on Reed and Robinson in the 2nd round. I have big faith in Kaufusi and would take him @ #52 to replace Crick. Vannett can block and be an upgrade at TE, so I can pass on Henry and Hooper in the 2nd round.
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:21 PM
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Kevin Dodd to the Titans.....Leaving Kaufusi and Nassib.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:38 PM
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Traded up again, this time with the Falcons to #50. Gave up their sixth round pick.

Take Nick Martin, center from Notre Dame.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:46 PM
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With Jarran Reed off the board, for the record, I'm taking Bronson Kaufusi with the 50th pick over Nick Martin.

So far:
WR Josh Doctson
DE Bronson Kaufusi

would have been my picks.

On another note, Hackenberg just went to the Jets with Bryce Petty.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:48 PM
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We're going for an All Domer draft.

I like the Martin pick, a solid "need" pick. He'll stay at center for several years.

The J-E-S-T, JEST , JEST, JEST just chose Hackenberg over Connor Cook.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:49 PM
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I now have Kaufusi, Nassib, Kenneth Dixon, Austin Hooper, and Nick Vannett at the top of my board.

I had Will Fuller between Hooper and Vannett.

I'm also watching Silique Calhoun, Maliek Collins, Javon Hargrave, Hassan Ridgeway, Sean Davis, Connor Cook, Braxton Miller, and Vonn Bell.

If I wanted a C, then Christian Westerman was my top guy in the 3rd followed by RB C.J. Prosise.
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:15 PM
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1. Will Fuller
2. Nick Martin
3. Sheldon Day
4. C.J. Prosise
5. Elijah Shumate

Maybe Rick Smith watched ND demolish the Longhorns the first week of the season and decided that was all the scouting he needed to do.
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:18 PM
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The Cowboys didn't even draft the best crippled linebacker on the board...
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:20 PM
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Aguayo in the second round. I am stunned.
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:07 PM
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Kaufusi going to Ozzie Newsome. I have to say he is a better GM than TE, and he was a pretty damn good TE.
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:34 PM
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2nd round results:

1(32) Browns Ogbah, Emmanuel DE 6'4" 273 Oklahoma St. 6.0
2(33) Titans Dodd, Kevin DE 6'5" 277 Clemson 6.2
3(34) Cowboys Smith, Jaylon OLB 6'2" 223 Notre Dame 5.4
4(35) Chargers Henry, Hunter TE 6'5" 250 Arkansas 6.2
5(36) Jaguars (From Ravens) Jack, Myles OLB 6'1" 245 UCLA 7.3
6(37) Chiefs (From 49ers) Jones, Chris DT 6'6" 310 Mississippi St. 6.2
7(38) Dolphins (From Ravens through Jaguars) Howard, Xavien CB 6'0" 201 Baylor 5.6
8(39) Buccaneers Spence, Noah DE 6'2" 251 Eastern Kentucky 5.9
9(40) Giants Shepard, Sterling WR 5'10" 194 Oklahoma 5.9
10(41) Bills (From Bears) Ragland, Reggie ILB 6'1" 247 Alabama 6.4
11(42) Ravens (From Dolphins) Correa, Kamalei DE 6'3" 243 Boise St. 5.8
12(43) Titans (From Eagles through Rams) Johnson, Austin NT 6'4" 314 Penn St. 5.9
13(44) Raiders Ward, Jihad DE 6'5" 297 Illinois 5.6
14(45) Titans (From Rams) Henry, Derrick RB 6'3" 247 Alabama 6.1
15(46) Lions Robinson, A'Shawn DT 6'4" 307 Alabama 6.3
16(47) Saints Thomas, Michael WR 6'3" 212 Ohio St. 5.8
17(48) Packers (From Colts) Spriggs, Jason OT 6'6" 301 Indiana 5.8
18(49) Seahawks (From Bears through Bills) Reed, Jarran DT 6'3" 307 Alabama 6.1
19(50) Texans (From Falcons) Martin, Nick OG 6'4" 299 Notre Dame 5.7
20(51) Jets Hackenberg, Christian QB 6'4" 223 Penn St. 5.5
21(52) Falcons (From Texans) Jones, Deion OLB 6'1" 222 LSU 5.7
22(53) Redskins Cravens, Su'a OLB 6'1" 226 USC 5.8
23(54) Vikings Alexander, Mackensie CB 5'10" 190 Clemson 5.9
24(55) Bengals Boyd, Tyler WR 6'1" 197 Pittsburgh 5.9
25(56) Bears (From Seahawks) Whitehair, Cody OG 6'4" 301 Kansas St. 6.1
26(57) Colts (From Packers) Green, T.J. FS 6'2" 209 Clemson 5.6
27(58) Steelers Davis, Sean CB 6'1" 201 Maryland 5.5
28(59) Buccaneers (From Chiefs) Aguayo, Roberto K 6'0" 207 Florida St. 5.5
29(60) Patriots Jones, Cyrus CB 5'10" 197 Alabama 5.5
30(61) Saints (From Patriots through Cardinals) Bell, Vonn FS 5'11" 199 Ohio St. 5.6
31(62) Panthers Bradberry, James CB 6'1" 211 Samford 5.3
32(63) Broncos Gotsis, Adam DT 6'4" 287 Georgia Tech 5.5
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Another good WR from Ohio State , converted QB Braxton Miller. I'm ok, but surprised by the pick. Gonna be competitive at WR for sure.

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Old 04-29-2016, 09:55 PM
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Texans pick #85 - WR Braxton Miller, Ohio St.

Can throw....Multi-talented wildcat/package guy, IMO....... the receiving corp should be good for many years..
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:55 PM
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Texans take Braxton Miller in the 3rd. I wasn't planning to take a WR for the first two days but Smith thinks we need two of them. Has he given up on Jaelen Strong after the pot arrest?

Needless to say, I'm not thrilled.
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The new rules make slot receivers uncoverable. Smaller, quicker WRs are dominating football in ways that were not possible before. It is embarrassing we haven't had a decent slot guy ever. It's been just as glaring a hole as TE in my mind.

Converted QBs make some of the best slot guys in the NFL. They have the phone booth quickness to exploit the choice routes that make the best modern NFL offenses go. Edelman is a perfect example.

I don't know nearly enough about Miller to declare him a WR, but I am very happy we are trying to address the total lack of a real slot guy on our offense.

And Bob, I am not sure how you could possibly look at our roster and think we didn't need a WR in the first 2 days. Our #2 and #3 WRs last year were replacement level vets who combined for just over 1000 yards (Shorts and Washington) and roughly 347 drops. Our #4 WR had 13 more catches than Dope arrests last year. This position was a dumpster fire outside of Hopkins last year.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:25 PM
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3rd round results:

1(64) Titans Byard, Kevin S 5'11" 216 Middle Tennessee St. 5.2
2(65) Browns Nassib, Carl DE 6'7" 277 Penn St. 5.6
3(66) Chargers Tuerk, Max C 6'5" 298 USC 5.6
4(67) Cowboys Collins, Maliek DT 6'2" 311 Nebraska 5.6
5(68) 49ers Redmond, Will CB 5'11" 182 Mississippi St. 5.6
6(69) Jaguars Ngakoue, Yannick DE 6'2" 252 Maryland 5.3
7(70) Ravens Kaufusi, Bronson DE 6'6" 285 BYU 5.5
8(71) Giants Thompson, Darian S 6'2" 208 Boise St. 5.5
9(72) Bears Bullard, Jonathan DT 6'3" 285 Florida 6.0
10(73) Dolphins Drake, Kenyan RB 6'1" 210 Alabama 5.5
11(74) Chiefs (From Buccaneers) Russell, KeiVarae CB 5'11" 192 Notre Dame 5.5
12(75) Raiders Calhoun, Shilique DE 6'4" 251 Michigan St. 5.7
13(76) Browns (From Titans through Rams) Coleman, Shon OT 6'5" 307 Auburn 5.8
14(77) Panthers (From Browns through Eagles through Lions) Worley, Daryl CB 6'1" 204 West Virginia 5.3
15(78) Patriots (From Saints) Thuney, Joe OG 6'5" 304 N.C. State 5.5
16(79) Eagles Seumalo, Isaac OG 6'4" 303 Oregon St. 5.4
17(80) Bills Washington, Adolphus DT 6'3" 301 Ohio St. 5.6
18(81) Falcons Hooper, Austin TE 6'4" 254 Stanford 5.7
19(82) Colts Clark, Le'Raven OT 6'5" 316 Texas Tech 6.0
20(83) Jets Jenkins, Jordan OLB 6'3" 259 Georgia 5.7
21(84) Redskins Fuller, Kendall CB 5'11" 187 Virginia Tech 5.6
22(85) Texans Miller, Braxton WR 6'1" 201 Ohio St. 5.6
23(86) Dolphins (From Vikings) Carroo, Leonte WR 6'0" 211 Rutgers 5.4
24(87) Bengals Vigil, Nick ILB 6'2" 239 Utah St. 5.3
25(88) Packers Fackrell, Kyler OLB 6'5" 245 Utah St. 5.8
26(89) Steelers Hargrave, Javon DT 6'1" 309 South Carolina St. 5.5
27(90) Seahawks Prosise, C.J. RB 6'0" 220 Notre Dame 5.5
29(91) Patriots Brissett, Jacoby QB 6'4" 231 N.C. State 5.5
30(92) Cardinals Williams, Brandon CB 5'11" 197 Texas A&M 5.3
31(93) Browns (Fram Panthers) Kessler, Cody QB 6'1" 220 USC 5.4
32(94) Seahawks (From Broncos) Vannett, Nick TE 6'6" 257 Ohio St. 5.7
33(95) Lions (Compensatory Selection) Glasgow, Graham C 6'6" 307 Michigan 5.5
34(96) Patriots (Compensatory Selection) Valentine, Vincent DT 6'4" 329 Nebraska 5.2
35(97) Seahawks (Compensatory Selection) Odhiambo, Rees OG 6'4" 314 Boise St. 5.4
36(98) Broncos (Compensatory Selection) Simmons, Justin FS 6'2" 202 Boston College 5.5
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:52 PM
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Barrett, I agree that Washington was a waste but Shorts was adequate (not much more) out of the slot and also provided some trick plays. How much of that was the receivers and how much was the guys throwing them the ball? Strong simply didn't see the field that often and my question is why. When he got into games and we threw to him he did pretty well. Did he not understand the playbook? Was he a discipline problem?

Yes, WR was a need and I had no problem adding one in the draft but we have too many needs elsewhere to spend 67% of the first three rounds of the draft on one position. Plus, I remind you we recently drafted guys from Notre Dame (Nix) and Ohio State (Posey) who were busts so why go back to those wells again?
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